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AIBU?

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To object to a compulsory residential school trip?

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TheDietStartsTomorrow · 23/05/2014 10:09

My DS is starting secondary school in September. It's a different school from the one my older DC went to. This is a new school in its second year and the staff seem to have a lot of enthusiasm and a commitment to discipline, respect and high standards which is why I chose it for him.

The head talked about a no-opt policy for all pupils, indicating that everyone has to participate in everything regardless of their inclination, reasons or excuses. Because of this, they are quite firm about not making concessions for any pupils for any reasons whatsoover.

This brings us to the compulsory residential trip. It's three days in the Lake District, in November, just a couple of months after they start school. It's not entirely an educational trip- it's discussed as an opportunity to bond with other pupils and staff and get to know each other. My son, is not too keen to go for a number of reasons. He finds it very difficult to sleep in new places; sleeping in a tent seems to him, like the worse way to spend a night, never mind three; he has never been on a residential before and is very apprehensive about going away with people who are at the moment, still strangers to him; the school is very uncompromising on students individual needs and he feels will be forced to participate in activities that he doesn't want to; he will miss an important event at sports club he goes to outside of school that he is really looking forward to.

I, as his parent, also have some reservations. The school is totally uncompromising on faith issues and I feel that DS will be made to feel like he is different and mocked when he prays. The head teacher has also shown that he will not be very accommodating of his religious needs even though they are very simple requests (he needs a quiet corner of a library/classroom for 10 mins during their lunch break to pray during a school day and this request was not recieved very well by the head. That in itself, is another story and I want MNers opinion on that too in another thread so I can ascertain if we're being unreasonable).

I also feel that if he doesn't want to go, he shouldn't be forced to. There will be other opportunities to go on residentials when he is a little older and more familiar with his school teachers and by that time, his confidence will have hopefully grown so that he goes willingly.

So, AIBU to tell the head he will not be attending? Can the school impose this upon us if he doesn't want to go? Where do I stand and what advice would you give in such a situation?

OP posts:
cutefluffybunnes · 24/05/2014 00:23

I love camping but would absolutely not send mine out in a standard tent in November up there. I would refuse on those grounds alone. But perhaps it's tent-cabins with heat?

The school should provide him a place to pray quietly. It's not hard to do. Schools should not have any religious bias, I agree - but students should be free to practice whatever religion they choose. Where such a small accommodation is needed, to refuse is just bloody-minded. Providing space and time, where appropriate, to allow students to honour their religious commitments is just policy.

Delphiniumsblue · 24/05/2014 07:26

If they are not ready for a residential the parent should be getting them ready,gradually. One of my DCs found it difficult, but we started early with staying with grandparents, cubs etc. We often had to collect him but gradually he got there. He was a bit wobbly about the year 6 residential but he managed it- a huge boost to his confidence. He went on one in the third week of secondary and there was nothing better for bonding and making new friends.
I am by no means convinced that the trip mentioned is in tents. I can't see how he knows so much about it if he is still in primary school. Lots of tales about new schools circulate- most of which turn out to be untrue.

Liquoricelips · 24/05/2014 07:28

Firstly, I don't think the OP should have any safety concerns. Our school organises a similar trip for Y7 in November and before I sign off approval I need to see a mountain of risk assessments! Schools simple cannot take risks with their students and venues hosting such groups are well equipped to deal with them. Lots of kit is supplied and my experience has shown that even the most reluctant child gains something from the trip. The faith issue would concern me far more.

calmet · 24/05/2014 12:04

Delphinum - I think it probably is "tents". There is a tented village in an outward bound centre in the Lake District, big enough for this school group. In reality they are more like cabins. But because the name tented village is used, the kids will call them tents.

There are so many risk assessments to do today, there is no way a school is going to take so many kids away in November, with just a pile of ordinary tents.

When I went away on a compulsory residential at the start of secondary, there was also free footwear and coats for all kids provided. We just had to bring jumpers/other warm clothes.

But outward bound centres have qualified instructors who will be used to running this.

Andrewofgg · 24/05/2014 12:14

You chose this school, you go with it. Treat it as just. Fact that he is going, not a matter of argument or discussion. He'll be glad (afterwards) that had did not miss out.

I speak from experience!

Andrewofgg · 24/05/2014 12:47

Oh bugger.

You chose this school, you go with it. Treat it as just a fact that he is going, not a matter of argument or discussion. He'll be glad (afterwards) that he did not miss out.

I speak from experience!

atos35 · 24/05/2014 13:43

Like gertrudpie I'm amazed that anyone would even consider camping in the lakes in November! Never mind all the other issues it will be freezing, and very very wet!

middleagedspread · 24/05/2014 13:52

I suspect it's because it's much cheaper out of season. I can't believe Y7s will be in tents in November. The OP's DS hasn't even started yet, but I expect there will be cabins of some sort.
I would strongly encourage DS to go, there will be plenty of anxious 11 year olds all feeling the same way. Hasn't he been on school residentials before now? Are you sure it's not you who doesn't want him to go?

GnomeDePlume · 24/05/2014 14:02

I really dont agree with these 'one size fits all' bonding trips. They arent necessary and for some children they are just a huge stress. They seem to be all about going away for the sake of going away rather than going away to do something that group are all interested in.

I know that my DS would still hate to go on a school based residential trip yet loves going on Army Cadet camps where he sleeps in a bivvy with only his rifle for comfort. The difference is that he is interested in Cadets. School is something he does because he has to.

Fairenuff · 24/05/2014 14:11

School residential trips are nothing like the usual school routine. The teachers are relaxed and have time to get to know the children and have a laugh with them. The children mix with others that they might not normally spend time with. Everyone is encouraged and included. It really is a fantastic experience especially for those that are a bit nervous or reserved to start with.

And the staff are experienced and well trained. Safety is a number one priority. Children will not be suffering in the cold. These trips run year after year after year. They are well planned and designed for fun. It would be a shame to miss it.

The really serious problem that I think you should focus on OP, is the perceived religious discrimination. If that is at all likely, please do not send your ds to this school. No point in risking it, he is worth more than that.

Delphiniumsblue · 24/05/2014 17:41

I agree Fairenuff.

sunshinecity17 · 24/05/2014 22:13

I shouldn't worry. op.i am sure your dc won't be the only one with any sense to decline on November camping trip!

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