Naked man in communal showers. Totally stark bollock naked.

[tardisgirl68]

Not an AIBU cos really the title says it all. At massive local pool with group of five girls aged 10/11. Luckily they were showering in different area, I was waiting at lockers for them to come back and get changed. Bloke in the shower, nonchalantly steps out of his trunks and made big show of rinsing them out. I did a double take, then the slow burn whilst my brain tried to process what i was seeing . I nabbed a passing lifeguard and said "look!!!!" He was (after getting dressed) frogmarched out and told if he came back in they'd get police involved. Creep. My group of girls saw nothing but that was more luck than anything. shudders

Again, you dont know that.

You can commentabout his actions and the appropriateness of same all you like, you cant assert his thoughts with authority.

Which pool, Chelsy? So I know to avoid.
I'm starting to see why "women only" sessions are a good thing. And remembering the days of the "ladies pool" at Porty

Katiekaye, why is it not helpful? It would be an explanation as to why someone may be inappropriately naked in public. I know, I have a dd with sld/asd. I am not being obtuse

If there are communal showers then I think the facility ought to put up a sign specifying if nudity isn't allowed. Otherwise, I'd fully expect to be able to take my costume off and wouldn't be surprised or shocked to see others doing the same.

On mixed-sex nudity itself, I personally think we should be more relaxed about it.

I also find it interesting that the OP thinks he 'made a big show' of rinsing out his trunks. Perhaps in fact he was just rinsing out his trunks? And someone else refers to him 'pranc(ing) about'. This kind of language seems to come up a lot in discussions about nudity; I've often heard people accuse someone of things like 'parading about' naked. There seems to be an assumption that anyone being naked is doing it out of exhibitionism, which I think says more about the complainant than the naked person.

I think juggling within swimwear is just as unacceptable as nude ablutions.

Really I think that there should be same sex showers, or at least same sex facilities additional to the communal ones.And the communal ones should not be Iin full view of the pool.

grocklebox You can commentabout his actions and the appropriateness of same all you like, you cant assert his thoughts with authority

Where is this rule to be found?

OnlyLovers, if you walked in to a communal (whether single sex or mixed) showering area and there were say 10 other people in there showering, all with their costumes on, would you take yours off? Even if you hadn't seen a sign?

Personally, I wouldn't. I'd go with the norm and if there were a bunch of other people all showering clothed then I'd assume that was the appropriate way to behave.

This is a really pretty big and busy pool. Which almost certainly does have a sign or five, but even if not there would be more than enough people around for you to infer what the expected behaviour was.

The lifeguards at my old local pool used to tell me off for taking my 2 and a half year old charge's trunks off in communal shower after swimming lessons. So I think it's fair to say we probably have a no nudity rule for communal showers.

Our local pool has communal showers, they face the main pool (with viewing area open to the public) and baby pool (with windows onto a road) Are those of you who say you'd strip off in communal showers, saying you'd do so here?

I get the wanting a naked shower- but seriously these showers are an extension of the pool and you wouldn't swim naked, would you?

I was a little bit put out,even,to see a naked boy of about 10 showering.last time I went, in full view of the pool and my 8 and 9 year old dd's as we walked past to our locker.

Regardless of anything else this whole issue is down to whether it is necessary.
It clearly isn't, and if its likely to make others uncomfortable, which it clearly does, it shouldn't happen.

In the rule book. I believe its called the "you cant mindread a person you are reading about on the internet" rule.

I think it might be in the "you dont know as much as you think you do" chapter?

Oh right. Well I go by the "prior human experience should be applied when determining dodgy behaviour" rule myself.

I don't think he did anything wrong.

Maybe complain to the establishment that think unisex showers are suitable.

Maybe you should remember that other peopleare not you and just possibly mught think differntly to you?

Seriosly, the amount if people on here who just cant seem to grasp this basic fact is astounding.

Was naked dude wrong to be naked? Clearly, in this instance. But as to WHY he was naked, YOU DO NOT KNOW. You can guess, surmise,extrapolate, but YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Bloody hell.

My local pool has communal showers by the main pool, but it also has a couple of individual showers in cubicles which you can use if you want to strip off. (Although you also risk hypothermia, as they don't seem to have routed hot water there in an effective way.)

But my experience of pools all over the place is that there's no set way of doing it, and some places have showers on the poolside (I was quite taken aback by that, first time I came across it), others have communal, single sex showers, a few have individual cubicles. If you go to a new pool, you can never be sure which way it will be.

The thing that annoys me most about showers, whatever their configuration, are the ones where there's no where to put a towel without it getting wet.

Statistically, I don't know. It's never happened to me so I can't speculate. But generally speaking, I don't like washing with my costume on so would ideally shower naked.

I don't know that there were other people in the shower before this man got in though, so maybe he didn't have anything to go on?

Missingmumxox - I think my post yesterday answers one of your points pretty well.

It is not reasonable to say that, because a certain behaviour is acceptable in another country, no-one should mind you carrying out that behaviour in a country where it is unacceptable. For example - in some countries it is considered perfectly acceptable to have more than one wife, or to spit in public, or to haggle routinely in shops or to put used toilet paper in the bin by the loo rather than flushing it away - are any of these cultural norms generally accepted in the UK? No, they aren't.

Just because something is a cultural norm somewhere else, does not mean it will be acceptable in the UK - and to argue otherwise is illogical.

If he's deliberately behaving in a sexually suggestive manner that is very wrong.
But otherwise I see nothing wrong with being unclothed in communal showers.

And I do think it's very wrong to teach children that certain parts of the human body are disgusting or frightening and must be hidden away. Everyone has one sort of organs or the other and there's no need to cause any hangups about them.

Unless it was very early there would almost certainly have been other people around tbh. This is the biggest pool in Edinburgh, recently refurbished, super popular.

OK, then yes, even if there were people in there in costumes, I don't like washing with my costume on so would shower naked.

And I agree with Sallying on it's very wrong to teach children that certain parts of the human body are disgusting or frightening and must be hidden away. Everyone has one sort of organs or the other and there's no need to cause any hangups about them.

Its not about teaching them bodies are disgusting or frightening. Its about teaching which behaviour is appropriate and not.
a man exposing himself to children is not right and that is why we have a law against it.

It's very important to teach children that they have the right to set and have their personal boundaries respected.

We don't develop cultural norms by accident.

OP: had he been female and naked would you have acted in the same way (i.e. grabbing a passing lifeguard and reporting it)?

I can teach my DCs not have hang ups about their bodies without them having to shower with naked strangers.

Totally with you birds. You don't just completely choose to ignore that sort of cultural norm just because you personally feel more comfortable naked.

I prefer to sunbathe topless. My last holiday was to a very family oriented resort in Egypt. Did I sunbathe topless? Absolutely not because it clearly wasn't appropriate. Any more than it's appropriate to shower naked in a communal shower where it is against the rules and clearly not the accepted behaviour.