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Naked man in communal showers. Totally stark bollock naked.

526 replies

tardisgirl68 · 10/05/2014 21:40

Not an AIBU cos really the title says it all. At massive local pool with group of five girls aged 10/11. Luckily they were showering in different area, I was waiting at lockers for them to come back and get changed. Bloke in the shower, nonchalantly steps out of his trunks and made big show of rinsing them out. I did a double take, then the slow burn whilst my brain tried to process what i was seeing Shock Angry . I nabbed a passing lifeguard and said "look!!!!" He was (after getting dressed) frogmarched out and told if he came back in they'd get police involved. Creep. My group of girls saw nothing but that was more luck than anything. shudders

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 11/05/2014 01:34

I've seen two adults naked in unisex communal showers. In both cases it was apparent that they had learning difficulties and I think hadn't realised the difference between a mixed sex changing room and a single sex one. This might provide an explanation for the odd behaviour even if not that apparent.

turgiday · 11/05/2014 01:35

tardis - If he did it again he could be prosecuted though as it is clear then that he knows the rules. More likely though that he would just be banned from the swimming pool.

turgiday · 11/05/2014 01:36

Remember, this happened in Scotland, and the laws are different there.

turgiday · 11/05/2014 01:37

SGB - I think it depends on the children. You can't generalise. And no it is not just down to the parents reactions.

missingmumxox · 11/05/2014 01:38

Ha, me too, I get loads of complaints at our local pool, as it's communal, I am a fat 40plus female but been doing the same since I was a thin 30 year old, and the pool went to communal, I just shrug and say how can I get clean wearing a costume!
My feeling is it is you problem and yes I would rather be private female, but it isn't so jog on.

I am 44 now and the pool has not had sufficient complainants to change the changing rooms on14 years so...

missingmumxox · 11/05/2014 01:40

Oh never been asked to cover up by staff, or banned. Just a lot of tutting.

tardisgirl68 · 11/05/2014 02:15

Chronic insomnia is hell. Hence why I'm posting at this hour. Missingmum, that's dreadful. I would certainly be doing more than "tutting" at you. Awful and entitled too. shudders

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missingmumxox · 11/05/2014 02:41

Who is it untitled, I didn't ask for communal showers in fact is voted against, but I was in the minority so tough tatoes m, I am not going to change my routine

missingmumxox · 11/05/2014 02:41

Sorry entitled!

HavannaSlife · 11/05/2014 03:01

Im do glad I have managed to avoid taking the dcs swimming for years now.

I dont get it, surely you can have a quick shower with your costume on then go home and have a proper one

MoominAndMiniMoom · 11/05/2014 03:31

do people really treat the swimming pool shower as their real shower? you have a swimming pool shower to get chlorine out of your hair and to avoid the sticky feeling on the way home. proper shower to get clean is at home afterwards surely?

agree missingmum you sound horrifically entitled.

EBearhug · 11/05/2014 03:44

I almost did this once. The pool I usually went to had communal single sex showers, and people showered naked. I was at a new pool, having recently moved towns, and was in the communal showers, pulling down my shoulder straps, when I remembered these showers were mixed. Getting a wet swimming cossie back on is not so easy.

However, doesn't sound like this bloke was unaware.

EBearhug · 11/05/2014 03:48

One of the pools I worked at, you could have just a shower for 50p, no swim or gym (unless you paid for those anyway.) And I have a friend who is having building work at home - the gym is her only shower at the moment. So yes, people might be using it as their main getting-clean shower.

drivenfromdistraction · 11/05/2014 04:01

Andream - I find your post totally offensive. The word 'retard' is not just politically incorrect, it is horrible, and I have reported your post.

missingmumxox · 11/05/2014 04:04

I don't have a shower at home, also I lived in Germany as a child, it is normal there get over yourselves.

I am not entitled if showers are communal then they are communal and you just get on with it.

Grow up.

Toadinthehole · 11/05/2014 06:04

IIRC the Naked Rambler has only ever b een arrested in Scotland. So, either the law is different there (Intentional Failure to Protect Against Midges is perhaps an offence), or the law is enforced more strictly.

The most charitable view one can take is that he was trying to make a perfectly legitimate point, rather like the Naked Rambler. He can't complain if people think he's a perv, even though it may be true that British people are a but more hung up about nudity than their European cousins.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 11/05/2014 06:37

Me too, driven

AramintaDeWinter · 11/05/2014 07:58

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500smiles · 11/05/2014 07:58

I've reported it too. Frankly I'm astonished that anyone thinks it's acceptable to use that word.

OP YANBU it's not the norm to shower naked in communal showers. They are for a quick rinse with cossie on.

StatisticallyChallenged · 11/05/2014 08:19

I'm in Edinburgh too, and even in single sex shower areas here the expectation in the public pools is that you keep your costume on. I'm pretty sure every one of the public pools I've been in has had signs to that effect too. I suspect that you would get kicked out for insisting on showering naked here even in those which aren't mixed sex if someone complained.

I also think the one who should get over themselves is you missingmum-observe the norms of the place you are regardless of where you grew up.

SauceForTheGander · 11/05/2014 08:38

Yes SGB - flashing has often been met with hilarity and my parents were certainly not the type to hand wring over this. I didn't even tell them all the times. It was just what you learnt to expect. We were told to avoid the alley way so to say you'd been flashed at would mean getting into trouble for taking the short cut.

Flashing is now seen as "gateway" crime , the first step in a career as a sex offender for some. So not necessarily a good idea to laugh it off and ignore.

indecent exposure article - The Guardian

intheenddotcom · 11/05/2014 08:44

Our gym/swimming pool has showers and while there is no 'show' adults do strip off to shower and rinse out costumes. I've never batted an eyelid before; I must be very socially inept.

What is the world coming to when people immediately think naked = sexual?

LoveBeingCantThinkOfAName · 11/05/2014 08:45

I think part of the issue for the op must have been the responsibility for children that were not her own.

catgirl1976 · 11/05/2014 08:52

meh.

He was naked in a shower. People are often naked in a shower.

I think we are a bit hung up on nudity in this country.

Birdsgottafly · 11/05/2014 09:01

I would say that the reaction of the staff could be an indication that this isn't the Norm in that swimming baths and this man knows this.

That's all that matters, really.

It isn't just about Gateway crimes, there are a load of disorders, in which the individual likes to get away with behaviour that is outside the Norm, as public as possible.

The intent isn't always sexual, but this builds up.

Staff members are usually aware of who to watch.

My DD runs a residential unit that often involves lots of meetings with not only the persons SW/CPN/Probation officer/Police, but public building managers, to endure her Service User's code of conduct is clear and the consequences of breaking that.

There is difference in behaviour, that is why past serial sex pests, abusers etc got away with what they did, it could be explained and passed off.

I've been in many private Saunas etc and you can tell the difference between someone not thinking anything of shaving, as opposed to someone with their legs up, flashing, enjoying the discomfort/shock of others (for example).

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