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AIBU to keep this from my Husband? and what would you do?

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waffilyversati1e · 02/05/2014 16:35

OH and I have been together for 12 years. We have ds (mine from a previous relationship but OH is the only Dad he has ever had) who is 13 and DD who is 8 and then one on the way.

Ds is a good lad, bit lacking in motivation perhaps and is hopeless at looking after anything but kids are kids I suppose. Anyway, about a yr ago a 6th form student started helping out in his class. Ds talked about this kid more and more and after a few weeks asked if he could invite him over for tea, ds had been falling behind in maths and this 6th former was helping him during the lesson and had offered to bring over some books to help him catch up. He came over and sat and helped Ds with his homework and we chatted a little about his career plans (wants to be a primary school teacher) and it was ok.

Then ds would ask if he could go over to the 17 yr olds house after school some days but I was reluctant to be perfectly honest to encourage this friendship. I found it odd that a 17yr old would want to hang out with a 12 yr old. Just a gut feeling that didn't quite sit right?
My ds had a facebook account with the condition that I also had the password and he kept it what he posted appropriate generally.

After an occasion when he didn't come home after school I logged into his facebook to contact a few of his friends. It turned out he had gone to the 17 yr olds house. I messaged and asked him if ds was there. He said no. I messaged again and told him that they had been seen together so I was giving him the opportunity to tell the truth before I lost my temper. He said ok, ds was there but that he didnt want to talk to me. I said that he can want what he likes but as he is 12 he doesn't actually get to choose, I said I was leaving the house in 5mins and I expected to see ds walking down the road to meet me otherwise I would have no choice but to knock on the door and have a conversation with him and his mum about why it is not acceptable for someone in a position of trust within a classroom to continue a friendship with a child outside of school whether that person is 17 or not. As far as I was concerned his lie about my ds being with him is reason enough for me to trust my gut and ask him to stay away from ds.

Anyway. All was quiet and normal for a few weeks and we went into town one saturday. Ds wanted to go off with his cousin (also 12) to games workshop for an hour so I said that was absolutely fine but to meet me at a certain time and place. As I was walking toward the place at which we were to meet I saw the 17 yr old walking away from ds. I told ds how disappointed I was that he had not done as I had asked and stopped contact with the 17yr old - we had an arguement and ds told me that the 17yr old had confided in him that he was gay so ds felt like it was his duty to be his friend. I said I could understand why he would feel that way and I was proud that he wanted to be supportive but that frankly it didnt make much difference to me as to how I felt about their friendship (I had already suspected having seen facebook messages from the 17yr old to ds about how he thought he was attractive, MANY posts about how girls would be lucky to have him as a boyfriend and 1 conversation when ds was ill about how the 17yr old would look after him..)
... Monday morning I called the school and spoke to his head of year about what was going and what had happened but I didnt mention about the 17yr old coming out as I knew that the 17 yr old hadnt spoken to anyone else and would feel terrible if he had got a negative reaction because I would have wanted the friendship to end whether this kid was gay or straight - got to be honest though it didnt help.
I explained that I really didnt want to get the 17yr old into trouble but that I was concerned and felt that I had run out of options. She agreed that it was completely inappropriate and said she would speak to them both.

This was last year. I recently found out that they were still in sporadic contact by facebook message. I blew my top (not my finest moment) and grounded ds.

Yesterday he asked if he could go out after school to a friends house. I said that was fine. He was 2 hours late and I was pretty worried/pissed off by the time he walked in. He lied about where he had been and after being shouted at by me he owned up and said that he had been.... at the 17yr olds house! The 17 yr old is no longer working at ds' school by the way, his placement has been moved.
I literally had no words for how angry I felt and he was grounded and sent to his room. I told him he could spend the evening doing a page of writing.

When I went to bed I found the page of writing. It was a letter addressed to me detailing how he felt he could talk to the (now) 18yr old about his feelings in a way he couldnt speak to anyone else and that he wanted me to know that he is Bisexual and has a boyfriend.

Now, this wasnt a total surprise as he asked me a few weeks ago how I would feel if he or his sister told me that they were gay as his friend was talking about coming out to his mum. I told him that all I want for my children is to meet someone who tries to love them as much as I do. Whether that person is called Jack or Jill matters very little to me - what matters is respect and love.

So I read this letter last night. Ds said in the letter that he didnt want to talk about it and begged me not to tell OH because he believes OH would react badly. He might be right, he wouldn't blow up or anything but he certainly would find it difficult to be supportive i think.
So I haven't. I haven't mentioned it to anyone, just carried on as we were. I feel absolutely no different that his punishment for going against my wishes with regard to the 18yr old is that he be grounded but I don't want him to not have anyone to speak to if he feels he needs to.

what a mess. Anyone have any pearls of wisdom??? (and thank you for sticking with it if you got this far!!)

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ajandjjmum · 03/05/2014 18:00

I think you're handling this brilliantly waffily.

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BuzzardBird · 03/05/2014 18:13

It makes you wonder how much pressure your DS has been under to not tell anyone? The 18yr old obviously was covering his back by telling your DS that it would ruin his career etc do you think?

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KrevlornswathoftheDeathwokClan · 03/05/2014 18:15

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. x

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sarine1 · 03/05/2014 19:32

Well done - it must feel so difficult but you are doing what you need to do to protect your ds. Hope it goes as well as it can do tomorrow. And yes, if your son has been groomed then the 18 year old is likely to have warned him about telling and your ds will need lots of reassurance that he is not doing anything wrong.

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Serendipity30 · 03/05/2014 20:18

Your 12 year old may or not be in a relationship with an 18yr old and you are not acting on this. Your child being gay is not the issue. The 18 yr old coul be grooming child and your not responding? I have no words.

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Serendipity30 · 03/05/2014 20:19

18YRS OLD

12YRS OLD

Er hello?

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 03/05/2014 20:20

Err she is seeing the police tomorrow.

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magpiegin · 03/05/2014 20:21

Um Serendipity30 read the whole thread. The OP has spoken to the police. If you're going to be rude at least know the facts.

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TippiShagpile · 04/05/2014 09:39

Good luck OP.

You are handling this brilliantly.

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CaptainSinker · 04/05/2014 09:42

Good luck for later.

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Stuffofawesome · 04/05/2014 10:01

sounds like you are doing all the right things. a loving, accepting and protective mum will stand hin in good stead. good luck later

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Serendipity30 · 04/05/2014 13:50

Sorry, i should have read through properly before I posted.

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EatsCakeForNoReasonWhatsoever · 04/05/2014 19:34

How did it go?

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waffilyversati1e · 04/05/2014 20:25

It went ok - I think.
Took ds with me as requested and they asked him for his account of what had been going on, how they met and such. I took a print out of the conversations they had had that had made me feel uneasy. I told them about everything basically and the office was lovely about it all. He chatted with ds about whether or not a boundary had in fact been crossed it was still highly inappropriate for them to be friends. At the end he sent ds to wait outside and asked me how I felt. I said I was pleased to hear ds say that it was only talk between them but I categorically wanted the 18yr old nowhere near my child and I felt his college must be informed. He agreed and said that it might not be that they arrest him, they might just give him a warning but that child protection and social services would be informed as well as the school and college and that their child protection people would be in touch on Tuesday/Wednesday but in the meantime to keep ds indoors and away from access to the internet or a phone.

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Foodylicious · 04/05/2014 20:38

That sounds ok, have you got a number/designated person for follow up support?

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EverythingsDozy · 04/05/2014 20:40

Glad it went okay. How have DP and DS reacted? Thanks

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waffilyversati1e · 04/05/2014 20:51

Yes I have a crime number. He said he was logging it as suspected grooming of a minor (or words to that effect) but that he wasn't sure the content of the messages warranted arrest - I said I could see that the messages could have been much worse and I was relieved to a point that they weren't (I say to a point because obviously I was upset at finding any of them - came across one today when I was printing them in which he out and out told ds "you know I have feelings for you" errr!?!?! - ds response was "yeah I know, and you know I love you like a brother) but really I don't care what happens as long it is investigated and the result is that ds is safe and the kids on the 18 yr olds placement are safe.

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waffilyversati1e · 04/05/2014 20:55

ds was very nervous and I could see that he was very much trying to play down what had been said between them in an attempt to protect him. I do get it but its so difficult to sit and listen to ds say that this 18yr old has been there for him when nobody else (including me) has. Sad

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Foodylicious · 04/05/2014 20:59

I think you needs to give your DS massive praise for not being pressured into changing the relationship into something more. He might have been under quite a lot of pressure. You have a strong little boy there!

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SolitudeSometimesIs · 04/05/2014 21:27

I just wanted to offer you some support. You are handling this wonderfully. I know it's just words on a screen but I think you have been so strong.

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SolitudeSometimesIs · 04/05/2014 21:28

My words are just words on a screen!

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DrinkMoreWater · 04/05/2014 21:34

How was DS afterwards - was he OK or angry at you for making him talk to them?

That 18 year old shouldn't be on a placement and I hope he is removed. Apart from breaking the rules about out of school contact and your instructions to leave DS alone - he is far far older than your DS & it's totally wrong of him, at 18, to be fancying 12 year olds.

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waffilyversati1e · 04/05/2014 21:42

he was cross but said he could see from looking at the print outs why I would be worried but seems to think I have taken them out of context. I said that was ok and if I have then that's the conclusion the police and college will come to. I do think he understands I am trying to protect him but in doing so he will be losing his friend - when the policeman left the room he said as much and cried about nobody his own age liking him Sad

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waffilyversati1e · 04/05/2014 21:44

SolitudeSometimesIs thank you. Thank you to all of you who have replied. You have really helped me to feel strong enough to carry this through and I appreciate it immensely

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DrinkMoreWater · 04/05/2014 21:57

Oh poor wee lad :( It's a hard age. However, that's why we have parents, to keep us safe when we think we know better! Hopefully now he's told you he's not sure about boys/girls/both... maybe he will be able to talk to you more?! Not many kids that age talk to their parents about stuff like this and pretty much all kids have other people who they think 'get them' or they can 'talk to' - it's life isn't it and it doesn't mean you have let your DS down... it's just the way of the world x

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