to love UKIP?

[Hullygully]

Every time a UKIP person speaks, they want to say rape within marriage is ok, Lenny Henry should go back to Black Land, bit too scared to stand in a by election just now...yet

PEOPLE ARE STILL DESPERATE TO VOTE FOR THEM.

What hope is there? Humanity is as truly doomed as ever.

bigdog you are taking the piss right how disabled to the disabled need to be before you consider them valid

do the*

North Korea forces abortion on anyone suspected of having mated with a Chinese. Now they are a model society.

I think big dog number number is having a little chortle. Probs best to ignore.

I think the phrase, 'utterly unacceptable in a civilised society' is what you're looking for

If that was the phrase I was looking for then I would have fucking well used it!

If the argument us now about abortion then can I suggest they I am neither against or pro doing anything to any other woman's womb carrying a child of any ability.

That's for the pregnant woman to decide and nothing to do with me, anyone on mumsnet, doctors and certainly not a politician ffs.

Full control over her body at all times pregnant or otherwise.

Back to UKIP. They are now the new liberal party that pissed off people used to vote for until Clegg saw himself as powerful, utter twat. The greens are the new monster loony party really.

Totally disgraceful that labour are so bloody quiet and supportive of Tory policy's they are terrified of saying anything that could loose them votes do say and do jack shit.

People are pissed off over cuts and it's so easy to blame foreigners.

I totally blame labour for this.

Completely agree that they are a shower of shite and I will be spoiling my ballot paper because I have no faith in any of the options available to me.

They've been pulling this jolly "We're just the normal bloke in the pub" line for a while and that's what people are liking. Sort out British jobs for British people? That goes very well in a lot of areas. And it contrasts nicely with Labour's intellectual socialism and the Tory posh boy capitalism. Neither left nor right will risk a LibDem vote and people are stumbling into the arms of the 'alternative'.

It's a horrible scary mess. I wish that a referendum on the EU HAD been done because then we could have shut UKIP up either way.

And well done my phone for autocorrecting UKIP up to SKIP.

Boris and Nigel have both pulled off the incredibly clever trick of making people think they are amiable buffoons- when they both actually have minds like steel traps. That's what makes them so dangerous.

see how big dog number bumber has to keep upping the ante to get the fireworks it craves?

Don't hand over the matches. There there big dog, it will all be better tomorrow.

aye I think so hully

Martorana you are right they play this character Nigel with his lets call a spade a spade and Boris with his clown act ,

I half expect Nigel to turn up in his countrywear petting several hounds when he is interviewed, (no offence to anybody who has hounds or weliies )

Hully for president. Yes, I said president

I'd vote for Hully

HULLY (reasonable attitude to humans party) X

Ahh, so now you want to know how disabled is disabled? They are all in receipt of DLA. That good enough to terminate their existence

No, you're just twisting my words. I will repeat - If a parent chooses to continue a pregnancy that they have been medically advised not to continue then they should bare the extra costs associated with that child. Nothing more than that. I would suspect that there are very few pregnancies where this advice is given. As for general screening of pregnancies then at least it gives parents a choice.

Animal rights activists wont like that party name, buzzard

I'm disabled. Willing to put me down yourself?

meh I know i shouldn't

if my mum had to pay extra expense for me as a child then i would probably be dead bigdog what you are saying is goady and shit stirring and if you genuinely believe what you are typing then there is a political party that could use you, maybe you could consider being their disability minister sort out their budget would be a piece ofpiss for you

I very much doubt that they are so seriously disabled that medical advice would have been to terminate the pregnancies?

In what way did I twist your words? That asks the question, how disabled is disabled? Ergo, if they were what you considered to be disabled enough, they should surely be terminated.

Oh, well that's alright then.
I though for a minute you were suggesting that parents should take full and complete responsibility for inflicting a disabled child on the world.

But if you just mean that they shouldn't be entitled to use the NHS with the rest of us then that's totally reasonable and not nazi-like at all.

the next stage from forced abortions (whether using inability to pay or otherwise) is screening people for genetic issues and sterilising them.

lets stop that train before it gets to the station shall we?

they have NO MPs -

if people thought they were any good for this country they would vote for them in UK elections (if they get the guts to stand that is.)

Farage is the best known political non-entity in England....

What part of "against medical advice" do you not comprehend? There are very few pregnancies for which this is applicable. We're talking extreme cases here. I guess the only problem comes if they were to move the goal posts and start advising termination for any and every disability they could detect. And beyond don't be utterly ridiculous - talk about drama queen!

UKIP scares me.

My DH is an economic migrant and when I voice my thoughts on UKIP people say "oh don't be silly, you know they don't mean your DH"

If I was pregnant and knew it was disabled to the extent it would have a lifetime of pain and suffering ahead of it, I would abort it. It would be cruel not to. I don't agree with forcing others to do the same though.