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to feel like crying after parents visit

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drivenmadbyparents · 17/04/2014 20:23

I genuinely don't know if I am being unreasonable or not but I really do feel close to tears over their visit and it is probably ridiculous.

My real mother died when I was very young and I have had three stepmothers: this latest one (sorry to put it like that!) is number three and they married when I was 27. I don't know her very well but she is pleasant enough.

I don't know where to start but on a two day visit they:

insisted on eating in McDonald's because they had vouchers they had "picked up off the floor" for Big Macs, meaning I had to sit there while they ate (I am vegetarian.)

went to a Harvester restaurant and STUFFED themselves - I mean, 3 big bowls of pasta, 2 rolls with butter each, massive bowls of pineapple and other fruit, PLUS a big lunch. No one could talk as they were just shoving food into themselves. It wasn't just the amount, it was the way my dad was shovelling huge forkfuls in his mouth and going, "Ooh! OOH!" in enjoyment Blush

went to Wetherspoons for a drink (they won't go anywhere else Hmm) and my dad loaded up his bum-bag with ketchup, sugar, pots of milk and so on. (They own a barge and apparently these "come in useful")

Read every single road sign out loud to me for no discernible reason Confused - I literally had to put up with "Name Of Village!" Read aloud and then they would look at me questioningly as if I was supposed to say something?

Described the holidays they had taken, the books they had read and the films they had watched in such mind-numbing detail, I wanted to scream.

It probably sounds like nothing but I just feel so sad the only family I have, I have absolutely nothing in common with and spent the two days wishing they'd go home. And that's awful as one day he won't be here, but honestly, it was miserable. Has anybody ever had anything like this with their parent(s)?

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hiccupgirl · 18/04/2014 10:30

Ah yes thebody my PIL are also both slightly deaf and believe everything the Daily Mail says sigh

SummerRemembered · 18/04/2014 11:23

Oh god. I have started and deleted so many threads about my parents because I really thought nobody would understand and I would be told to get a grip and make the most of having them around. But this thread has me actually sitting in tears because of the connection I feel to so many of you.

The descriptions of parents - the never ending commentary on every inane detail, road signs, billboards, shop names all read out in a sort of questioning way as if I am supposed to start a spirited conversation about Parker Road or similar.

The turning into a sullen teenager when I am around them. I'm 35 years old FFS. I have a responsible job, a good adult relationship with DH and my friends yet as soon as they are around me, I revert to this stroppy sarcastic teenager.

Feeling like I have already lost them but cannot grieve because they are still here. This is the biggest issue for me. I have so many wonderful memories of my parents but in the last ten years both they and I have changed to a point where there is no connection at all and I find getting through the day with them such a chore. I feel like a lost my parents - my dad especially, a long time ago. Now, if I am completely honest, I kind of want that to happen so I can properly grieve and remember the good times before they are obliterated by current events and new memories.

The eating noises – I have misophonia and it is set off by my dad in particular. When eating or drinking anything he sort of holds the spoon, fork or cup a few centimetres away from his mouth and then sucks the food or drink in, like a noisy vacuum. I cannot stand it and I hate eating out with him for this reason.

The Daily Mail reading and absolute belief in every word printed by that hateful little rag.

The sexism from both parents – they cannot accept that I earn more than DH and tell me I should know my place. They think it abhorrent that we share housework duties and that I don’t get up earlier than him every single morning to send him of to work with a cooked breakfast in his belly. Also, I am told that a “real woman” would only ever work part-time so that she can devote more time to housework.

My dad’s deafness. I’m not disablist at all. One of my line managers has a hearing problem and my cousin was born profoundly deaf. Both of them wear hearing aids. My dad saved up £2k to get a digital aid and binned it after 1 hour because it was uncomfortable. He complains about the way he is treated for being deaf and that I, in particular, make no concession for his disability but in the same breath says he couldn’t imagine wearing aids like my cousin because he would “look like a cripple”. I have learned sign language to communicate better with my cousin and have attended numerous disability awareness training sessions to deal with the various issues faced by students I may teach, including deafness, but my father does not want to know about anything that might make life easier for him. It is far better to scream at the world for treating him unfairly. What drives me mad in particular is that any time I, my mum or any other woman speaks to him we get two words out before he screams “WHAT????” but he seems to understand my DH and other male relatives perfectly. This, to me, seems obviously rooted in sexism – he obviously listens more intently to what a man has to say because it will be more important. If I speak normally I get screamed at for “whispering” but the second I try to speak clearly and project my voice (my presentation voice) I get told I am speaking too harshly for him.

The talking in a long boring drone about the plot of a film or tv programme. Especially if it one I have already said I don’t like. Strictly, for example – can’t stand the programme yet I get a 30 minute commentary every week after it has aired “and so and so wore a dress that like like… and Brucie said… and then the judges said… and everyone booed… but they got through…” and every monologue ends with the words “Honest! That’s what happened.” Really, ‘cause I didn’t doubt you – I’m just not interested.

We have nothing in common. I accept that but they cannot. They think my enjoyment of hill-walking, museums and art galleries is dull. My mother claims to be mortally embarrassed by the fact I am a member of a book group. My father tells me they should have never allowed me to go to university as I became a boring snob. In contrast, they like to drink every night – down the “social” and are obsessed with being able to lie on a beach, burning to a crisp at any given opportunity.

The incessant talking about people I don’t know. “so, what have you been up to this week?” “Well, on Saturday we…” “Oh, hang on, I didn’t tell you about John. This is more important that your stuff which is likely to be dull. Anyway, you know John, used to live across the road but moved 15 years ago, well his son’s father in law has had to go into hospital for an operation…” or with an air of deep foreboding and completely out of the blue, “Caroline’s gone to Spain”. Who is Caroline? Why is this news?

My parents moved abroad a few years ago (so they could get away from the Britain that the DM tells them is now run by Shariah law and spend their days on a sunny beach) and so now their “visits” tend to involve them staying in our house for at least a month at a time. So all the above happens all day, every day and I can’t stand it. Some of the problems are understandably big but others are tiny but get under my skin like a constant, repetitive torture – the way my dad sits on our armchair; picking it up and walking with it three paces to set it down that little bit closer to the TV then sort of throws himself about in the chair muttering about being comfortable. Then there is the TV watching which annoys me as the constant refrain in our household growing up was “we don’t rule our lives by the tv”. Now they do exactly that except it is my tv in my home and because of the deafness it is loud and they watch crap stuff that I don’t want to watch. We bought them their own tv for the spare room and my mum cried because it meant we don’t want to sit with them in the evenings and weekends, so that was a waste of money. If they ever do leave the house for a while – hardly likely because even in the middle of summer “it’s too cold outside” – as soon as they come back in, my dad thunders through to the living room before even taking off his coat and shoes to ask “What’s on? What are you watching? What have I missed?” Oh and we’re not allowed to watch anything (a) American (B) Sci-Fi or fantasy and (C) “snobbish” while they are around.

My mother has a horrible habit of walking straight to the front of a bus queue and pushing her way on in front of everyone else who has been waiting. I’m surprised we’ve not been punched at times.

They treat me so differently to any other adult my age. Still talk down to me as if I am a child but actually seem like lovely people when in mixed company.

They insist on making dinner most nights when they stay. I know I am such an ungrateful cow but they make such odd stuff that we would never eat. We try to reduce our meat consumption and eat veggie through the week with meat dishes being a treat at weekends. We also buy our meat from the farmer’s market which is obviously more expensive, hence the reduction. They, however, buy battery eggs (They’re so cheap, why anyone would spend more?”) and Asda smart priced chicken kievs which they will serve with mashed turnip and three raw pepper strips (actual dinner recently). Or a lump of tinned haggis with boiled aubergine on the side. The thing is, both parents are excellent cooks and regularly host dinner parties with amazing feasts.

I could go on, but this is long enough. Although the obvious big things are a problem – it’s the little niggles that get to me on a day-to-day basis. I can't relax and be myself when I am aroudn them and I don;t like the person I do become. The problem is that I build up an idea of how I want visits to go – and they inevitably fall flat within minutes. I feel utterly drained when I am with them, meanwhile they just blunder on through life oblivious to this. I know they won’t be around for ever and I would love to be able to get past all this and spend some quality time with them. I jump every time the phone rings, thinking something might have happened to one of them and I really don’t want my last thought of them or physical experiences to be negative. I just don’t know how to break the cycle.

I actually went to counselling to try to deal with these feelings as so many times I would lie in bed crying at the end of the day when they were visiting. I didn’t really connect with the counsellor who homed straight in on the fact that DH and I are childless and suggested this might be evidence of me putting myself in a child role, unwilling to grow up so they are just reacting to that. I didn’t really feel the need to go into detail about my private life decisions and gynae history after that.

drivenmadbyparents · 18/04/2014 12:09

SummerRemembered I really do feel for you. Like you, my father doesn't live locally - not abroad though - and I would be just as despairing as you if I had to put up with it for a month. I understand and empathise with so much of what you have written. The line 'I don't like the person I become' really struck a chord with me.

It's impossible however as you explain in your post to be anything but that person. Attempts at striking a conversation are sidelined in favour of exclamations of 'Oooh-oooh' at some completely random thing. It makes you feel impossibly stupid if you were talking about work , for instance, to have someone chime in with 'Birmingham - Four Miles!' said in a tone of such significance that everyone stops and waits. I could just carry on, I know, but the overall message is still 'we don't give a shit what you were saying and were looking outside for a distraction.'

My dad also enjoys the sun and burning to a crisp: if I ever retreated to the shade during family holidays growing up I was yelled at Hmm. Now it is limited to near constant ejaculations about what a LOVELY day it is. GORGEOUS. If someone is talking they are interrupted to say again the day is BEAUTIFUL. This is largely the reason I don't enjoy walks with him.

My hobbies are reading, history and the theatre when I'm being highbrow Wink I also love the soaps, horses and horse riding and skiing. My dad enjoys the above as well other than soaps and horses. However he considers himself quite the expert in books, history, plays and thus just drones on about them. I was informed loftily that Julius Caesar was assassinated by Marcus Brutus on his latest stay. My degree specialised in ancient history.

Burrin thank you too for your kindness and understanding. Regarding Aspergers I don't know. My brother almost certainly had some form of Aspergers and it isn't out of the question, certainly. But his sociableness leads me away from it - he does however very quickly become near-obsessive over things that are very unimportant such as the bins.

Believe me I'm anything but prim/dour most of the time.
With most people I am happy, laugh loads, easygoing, friendly. But I struggle so, so much with my dad when he comes to stay!

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kickassangel · 18/04/2014 13:02

Summer, I can completely understand your feelings. My parents, particularly my mother, just get too involved and take over whatever we do. Any hobby or activity my sister or I do just becomes subsumed by her, as if we aren't allowed to do anything by ourselves. So when my sister lived in Norway my mum learnt Norwegian.

Either it gets taken over or dismissed. I haven't told my parents that I am doing an MA as first of all I'll get snide comments about whether or not I'm capable. Then my mum will try to talk to me about the topic endlessly until the fun of it is sucked dry, then whenever I make a comment that could possibly be linked to my subject I'll get more snide comments. The degree is women and gender studies, so that will upset them as it's too left wing and unconventional. Yet more proof of how I'm awkward and don't fit in but like to argue and make a fuss.

Now, if I were like my sister I would have married a rich man, not work, but do worthwhile voluntary stuff and have hobbies like gardening. Then my mum would endlessly talk about how busy I am and how hard I work and how she thinks I do too much. Actually I work full time and do an MA and have a dd with some extra needs and have a husband who works long hours and travels and we have very little back up for dd as we have no family around. But somehow I'm made to feel like a whiney lazy teenager who shouldn't argue so much.

This year I am planning not to stay at their house too long as it is just so suffocating. They are so set in their ways they can't bear it if anyone so much as sits in the wrong seat and my dad winces every time dd makes a noise. It's too exhausting and as dd gets older she is beginning to realize how unpleasant it all is.

fluffyraggies · 18/04/2014 13:51

Oh souper don't! Frequency and consistency of bowel movements, and/or the current colour of her urine is always bought up as a major topic within the first 5 mins of mum getting into my car! My teen DCs have a secret running bet on it BlushSad (i pick her up to take her for the weekly shop)

Then it'll be straight onto any joint pain, followed by a story told in an extra loud voice about how during the week she has struggled with a disaster of some kind, and has been helped by a stranger. Every.week. They were sooooooo kind. She doesn't know what she'd have done without them. Closer quizzing always reveals these disasters to be huge elaborations on the truth - or sometimes total fibs!

The message for me here is of course is that i don't do enough for her and should not have had the temerity to have moved to a different village a year ago. In more 'straight talking' moods she has actually told me straight that i should ring her up more often in case she's dead ....

.... Hmm

The great irony of all this is that I can remember her ranting about my nan (her MIL) for doing and saying all the same sort of things! Saying 'if i ever get like that; shoot me'.

God this is good to get it out. I'm a cow about my mum! :(

MarianneSolong · 18/04/2014 14:18

I've been reading this and nodding. Given that I am in my 50s, I am wondering what I'll be like when I am old. I can see that my partner and I are developing all sorts of habits and routines. I hope that we'd be able to be flexible - but on a recent visit to my stepdaughter and her partner, I could see I was finding it really hard to the fact stepdaughter's partner always likes to have the TV/a DVD on - even early in the morning. It really is hard to be a good guest at times, and perhaps it's harder with family where you don't feel you have to be on your best behaviour in the same way.

I find my father-in-law easier than my mother. Both in their different ways are rather demanding, but I don't expect to be close to my father-in-law, so I don't take his quirks and limitations personally.

My only other comment would be that if you live on your own, visits can be particularly difficult. I think you are used to your own routine, and - when at home - your own company. If friends come round it may just be for a few hours. I feel there is a level on which living with my partner, my child and my stepchildren has made me a bit more tolerant. Everyone has their individual habits and preferences. You get used to compromising, living with other people's stuff and moods.

SummerRemembered · 18/04/2014 14:40

the overall message is still 'we don't give a shit what you were saying and were looking outside for a distraction.'

This, definitely.

I could go on forever about my parents' little quirks which probably sound like nothing to most people but all together, over and over again, drive me to distraction.

I think as DH and I are quite private and introverted people, we find the notion of constant talking, like the space has to be filled with some kind of noise, really alien and pointless. Even when my parents are not talking, they both fidget noisily or yawn excessively. They both have a habit of shuffling on chairs, stretching out as if to test their breaking point - the kind of thing I've seen toddlers do!

It's good to get this off my chest.

Onlyonamonday · 18/04/2014 15:02

Whatever parents are like no matter how irritating they are still your family/parents
I try to look upon the annoyance as funny and it's just how they are .....it's hard I know but as said before it's who they are and they won't be here forever

drivenmadbyparents · 18/04/2014 15:07

We all realise this, Monday - it's precisely because we know they won't be around forever we are distressed at being unable to enjoy them while they are here.

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kickassangel · 18/04/2014 15:31

My mum talks so much it has been known to give me genuine earache and tinnitus. When my gran was alive, my mum would laugh about my gran's inability to stop talking, but my mum is considerably worse. Sometimes I can be on the phone to her for an hour and not have said one single thing. When I stay there I actually have to just walk out mid sentence or I would never get anything done. Dh has been left stranded, awkwardly sitting on the edge of his chair and making attempts to get up for up to an hour. Other people tell her to pause so that we can get on etc. It makes no difference. I suspect that part of the reason for my dad not getting a hearing aid is so that he doesn't have to listen to her.

WitchWay · 18/04/2014 17:30

My mum talks & talks about people I don't know, lots of gossip about them & their operations etc etc. she also reads aloud bits from the newspaper, juicy snippets the best bits which puts me off reading it. She even interrupts herself sometimes "Well you know Janet (no), well her daughter's MIL had a terrible time last week - Oh look, there's a robin on the bird table - they think her husband's brother's stepson has cancer blah blah"

She also will not get off the phone - she keeps saying "well I'll let you go, oh have I told you about Bill?" etc etc. Much worse since Dad died - despite an active social life she seems to keep me informed about all this stuff

AveryJessup · 18/04/2014 22:01

God there must be a species of 65+ folks out there to whom we are all related and who all share the same annoying habits!

My DM is the same as your DF, Summer, regarding deafness. She has had partial hearing loss all her life due to a bout of measles when she was a child. It is getting worse now that she is getting older. The woman will not - WILL NOT - get her hearing tested!! It doesn't matter what I say to her, doesn't matter how I encourage her to realize that modern hearing aids are nearly invisible, doesn't matter what we do. She just WILL NOT admit that her hearing loss is really quite bad now.

So every single flipping conversation I have with them is like this:

Me: 'There's nice weather at the moment, isn't there? Not too hot'
DF: 'It is nice alright out, better than last year's summer'
DM: 'Pardon? / Hah? / What's that now?'
DF: 'She says it's nice enough weather at the moment, THE WEATHER, NICE ENOUGH, better than LAST YEAR'
DM: 'Last year, is it? We did, we did visit last year but we won't make it over this year, I don't think' or some other unrelated remark.

Holy Christ Almighty. This has been going on all my life too. I can never talk to my mother unless it is a 1-on-1 conversation where she can focus only on what I'm saying and read gestures etc. In a group, EVERYTHING has to be repeated back to her by my DF. And she usually gets the wrong end of the stick somehow anyway or sits there looking confused. But she just refuses point blank to admit she has a problem. Utterly refuses. It's insane.

Phew. That felt better out than in. As others have said, it can actually create some comedy gold moments but it is exhausting. I can't remember my parents ever being any other way either. They are extremely conservative, set in their ways and disinterested in anything outside of their own tiny preordained world.

AveryJessup · 18/04/2014 22:07

And yy to the infantilizing which triggers a sullen teenager response in me.

And having DC is not always the solution. My parents nearly lost their minds when I had my DS. I think it short-circuited something in their brains that my DM wasn't 'Mummy' anymore (first grandchild) and they just couldn't cope with the reality.

My solution to all the madness was to move 5,000 miles away. We still have the awkward phone calls and labored conversations but it's at a remove. People think I'm selfish for having moved their one and only grandchild so far from them but they don't even care. We were skyping recently and DS was trying to talk to them and they weren't even interested, just had the TV on in the background watching some sports my DF wanted to see. It makes me sad for DS but I just accept it now and don't expect anything else.

DenzelWashington · 18/04/2014 22:20

He latches himself onto people, is incredibly sociable but has no really meaningful relationships

My FIL to a T. The most determinedly, ruthlessly superficial person I have ever met, but very hail-fellow-well-met. Life and soul in the pub, very very hard to rub along with in any other context. Doesn't actually do anything bad, but there is never any connection, nothing real.

It's very hard and I do sympathise.

kickassangel · 19/04/2014 00:19

Avery, it is no accident that we live 4000 miles from home, although the trips to the UK are sufficiently painful that I am meant to be booking one for June and keep putting it off.

There used to be a sitcom called Ever Decreasing Circles and the man in it was just like my dad. I nearly cried watching it as a teen as it wa so painful to see the ludicrous behavior up there in Tv and my parents laughing at how funny it all was. laughing did they not see how painful it was to live with it?

GrassIsSinging · 19/04/2014 00:35

I suppose its the difference between whether you have a loving relationship with your parents and they are just a bit odd/boring/weird...or whether the relationship is actually an unhappy, unhealthy or 'toxic' one, isnt it?

My dad is a kind man and I love him very much, but can only take him in small doses, as he has only two modes of conversation - either endless rural Irish village life rambling about this one and that one that I have never heard of and lose track of the conversation within minutes... or massive vicious political/anti-gov't rants that wear me out. I am able to humour him and treat him graciously and kindly because I dont see an awful lot of him. If he lived next door and was round all the time, I think I might have slapped him by now.

My MIL is worse still. Feels very sorry for herself and has an awfully needy, wearing way of turning every conversation in to one about her many imagined woes . She lives in the USA and we see her once ayear. I can be nice for 2 weeks a year. I wouldnt be so understanding if I had to see her all the time...

Happyringo · 19/04/2014 07:40

I read this thread with a mixture of amusement and sadness! My dad and stepmother (mum died when I was 12) used to drive me wild on visits too. Lived 250miles away so short visits weren't an option - the debates about tea, eating etc, all so familiar! But then my dad suddenly died when I was 26, a few weeks after a particularly irritating visit to my house, and I can honestly say id give anything for one more long diatribe on the merits of tea vs coffee. Don't know what I'm saying really, clearly you are no stranger to loss OP, just wanted to add my two penneth worth!

Dolcelatte · 19/04/2014 07:58

You do all know that you will, in all probability, turn into your parents eventually, don't you? Fast forward a few decades and your DC will be posting about your annoying habits!

I am an orphan now, so have limited patience with people who whinge about trivialities. Of course an older retired person is probably going to have different interests and topics of conversation from someone who is juggling kids and jobs and commuting or whatever, but some of the posts here are so mean spirited, it makes me worry that's how my DC will regard me eventually. I would rather go to Dignitas than be a burden on them, and it would break my heart if they grew to hold me in the contempt that some of the posters here seem to have for their parents.

TartanRug · 19/04/2014 08:13

My parents used to come and visit with their own little habits that drove me mad. Every time my mum was here she'd break something, every single time. My dad moaned about everything from the weather to what other people (strangers) were wearing. But it was just them and it was funny in a way.

The both died 4 years ago and I would give anything, anything at all to have my mum here smashing the place up and dad moaning on about what Mrs Jones across the road had done to her garden. I'm not trying to minimise your feelings OP but sometimes you have to just accept people for who they are.

coralanne · 19/04/2014 08:28

It's a bit sad reading this thread.

However, I understand it completely. While driving with me in the car, my DM constantly reads olut the numberplates of the cars in front of us. Then makes a sentence out of it. Sounds pretty innocent, but it drives you nuts on a long journey.

She also carries on something dreadful when we are stopped at a red light. "Change you Idiots", "Why do they take so long to change".

My response. "Mum they are not going to change any quicker by you screaming and shouting at them"

*Dolcelatte" yes they are trivialities but it is also human nature to be irritated by them.

It also works the other way. My DS and myself recently went on an outing with DD and her family. We love them all dearly and DS is the best uncle in the world to his 5 nieces and nephews. However, after 1 hour we all had had enough of each other.

I gave4 yar old DGD a drink of chocolate milk and she spilt a tiny drop on her shirt. For this I received a "Death Stare" from DD and when DGD asked for something else I said "{No, you make too much mess and your DM will get angry". How childish was that?

DS and I ended up going off on our own for a couple of hours and then we all met up again for lunch. Worked out very well.

SinisterBuggyMonth · 19/04/2014 08:38

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drivenmadbyparents · 19/04/2014 08:48

There are many women on here, and I am probably one of the, who will not have their own children: however somebody at the end of their tether with children is generally treated sympathetically.

Most of the posts have been lovely and understanding but I don't know how many times I can say, in different ways, I know they won't be around forever. I daresay my dad will go first and at his funeral I will meet a plethora of step relatives I've never met before, because I have never been permitted to meet them. He spends Christmas with them: I spend Christmas alone. I am not invited.

I am not talking about a man who I loved dearly and has become a bit annoying in his old age; I am talking about a man who has become completely disconnected from me and my life - through choice - and now our only topics of conversation are the fucking bins (frustration aimed at him, not anyone on the thread.)

What makes me want to SCREAM is that to him, all this is normal, acceptable. Not because it is but because he wants it to be. I am merely a cheerleader in his life, not an active part of it. In his own weird way, he does love me, but it certainly doesn't really show.

Yes, the actual things that irritated me were minor, but what was very distressing was that most of them came about because we couldn't talk to one another; we simply had no idea what to say. No sooner was a topic established than it was sidelined for a sporadic observation about birds, bins, whatever. It's entirely possible he finds me as boring and difficult as I find him, I know, but why is that?

I do think some of it is down to his inherent nature but it's more I am something on a list to be ticked off - holiday, see daughter, clean toilet ... That sort of thing. There is no thought or regard to my feelings about the matter, and it pains me to say it but my dad has always been a very selfish man.

I'm going to stop any further visits for the foreseeable to my house anyway - the next one would be summer in any case - so now I'll try to arrange to meet somewhere neutral where the boat happens to be, perhaps. I definitely can't do another visit like that. I felt, at times, as if I hated my dad - and I don't like feeling like that.

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Dolcelatte · 19/04/2014 09:03

To quote Oscar Wilde

'Children begin by loving their parents. After a time they judge them; rarely if ever do they forgive them'

drivenmadbyparents · 19/04/2014 09:10

Indeed they do Dolce. Except that I have forgiven my dad, for some pretty appalling behaviour in my childhood and adolescence, and want to move beyond that to an adult relationship. The one who will not permit this is him, and this makes me very sad.

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Timetoask · 19/04/2014 09:17

OP, I really feel for you. I must be tough to want to have a connection with your sole relative and to find you have nothing in common with him.
I think many people are in this position and possibly feel close friends are more of a family. (You can chose your friends but not your family).

I wanted to share with you this: I still have both my parents, admittedly things are not as awful as with you because we do share common values, and enjoy our time together, but I just cannot stand my father's table manners (noises when eating, etc). It goes as far as me having to sit at the opposite side of the table from him because I feel completely disgusted. I actually feel horrified when I see that the only chair available is the one next to him and I have to give whatever excuse no to eat. I am not a horrible person, I am not an unkind person, but some thing we just cannot help.