27 year old Grandmother

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Her 12 year old daughter has given birth last Sundayand the dad is 13. She fell pregnant in year 6 of primary school. They are totally in love and into each other and want to get married.
Why an earth would you want to be a grandmother at 27 with a daughter of 12 now a mother.

I thought the age of consent law was there to protect young children from older adults not to prosecute two young children from having sex. Obviously that is wrong but why would anyone think prosecution is a good idea?

Would it really be in the publics interest to prosecute these two? Would it not just make an already sad situation worse?

As the boy is now 13 he really should get a paper round to show that he is a least doing something to try to support his child. I appreciate that he can't get any other job but it would be good for him not to just rely on his parents.

Ok so that is four adults prosecuted and 3 children taken into care because their parents are either in prison or in care themselves? Yes- that will be best outcome for all

YoureBeingASillyBilly I don't think that is what she wants. I think she only wants the mother to be prosecuted... Shows the strength in that argument. Absolutely SFA!

Wantsunshine- the girl could get a paper round too to support her child.

The best outcome certainly wouldn't be to leave a baby in the charge of this totally disfunctional family. For history to repeat itself.

Exactly cupid

Sillybilly, yes she could but I was thinking she is effectively on maternity leave at the moment.

By 11 my children knew all about sex, babies, etc as we had told them.

We also said that they could talk to us about anything at any time and we wouldn't judge but advise them.

We told them that we would be very angry if they had unprotected sex or sex at all without it bring in a relationship or under 15 at all.

They talked and we listened.

You just have to he proactive. and encourage education, hobbies, aspirations and self esteem.

But a condom box in the bathroom is also a pragmatic approach.

So prosecute then vivienne? We're saying that is best outcome?

Would you care to answer Vivienne? Is it just the Mother of the girl that should be prosecuted?

I have already given my opinion on the matter.

So why shouldn't the boy parents be prosecuted or the girls father?

Sorry but if your dd or your ds to get pregnant/cause a pregnancy at 11 is your failing as a parent unless the child has been abused.

Best outcome is this baby being raised by as many supportive people as possible to give her the best chance of having a happy upbringing an future. Best outcome is certainly not achieved by putting a baby in an already over stretched are system that is struggling to find homes for thousands if children already. Best outcome for the girl is not achieved by tearing her child from her against her will and prosecuting her mother. You cant seriously think that is best for all?

Why just the mother?

Why not the boy's parents too?

There is no point in prosecutions, it would be a huge waste of time.

I think the boy should be prosecuted. There is a big difference between a child just finishing primary and one who has done 2 years at secondary

I felt desperately sad when I heard the news. But I also wondered to myself that if I was a parent who discovered my daughter was pregnant at such a young age, whether or not I could inflict the trauma of a termination on a child.

As she was 11 when she fell pregnant, that could be classed as statutory rape. The gossip from the back seat of our car one night was that a 14 year old, slept with an 11 year old. Mother found out and went to the police and the 14 year old has been charged with statutory rape and is currently not at school until after the court case.

Such a sad sad case.

Yeah because being in care has far better prospects for children hey Vivienne?

Still curious to know why you believe only the girls mother should be prosecuted and not her dad too or the boy's parents?

The grandfather of the baby called into LBC radio station this morning & he apparently is self employed & he along with the other grandparents who also work are going to support the baby financially. He said his daughter & the babies father had been boyfriend & girlfriend (?!!) for over a year & they had no idea where the baby was conceived but admitted it could have been in the mothers (his ex partners) home.

Now see my dd is almost 11 & I'd think nothing of her having friends upstairs in her room including boys.. But I don't think I'd feel comfortable with it being just her & a 13 yr old boy! Although I assume they would have full sex but I would worry an older boy might push her further than a little kiss ?!! Arghhh I don't know.. This thread has really had to make me think.

If I'm honest I do think both sets of parents need to take some blame.. Yes, you cannot watch your 11 & 13 yr old children all the time but allowing them alone together for long enough to this to happen & not installing the values into them that it would be wrong & very irresponsible thing to do.

I'm disappointed Vivienne. Usually when someone comes on spouting such shite they at least have the balls to attempt at backing it up.

Why isn't the father being prosecuted?

Um probably because he's still a kid himself and also still below the age of consent himself?

Age of consent applies to both boys and girls, not just girls. Why people have such a hard time understanding this is beyond me.

Presumably if they are 12 and 13 now they were 11 and 12 when she fell pregnant.

Assume they would NOT be having full sex (with her consent) I meant

The girl's father stated the boy was 13 when she became pregnant also that he is now year 9 meaning he is about to turn 14 not only just 13.