27 year old Grandmother

[bongobaby]

Her 12 year old daughter has given birth last Sundayand the dad is 13. She fell pregnant in year 6 of primary school. They are totally in love and into each other and want to get married.
Why an earth would you want to be a grandmother at 27 with a daughter of 12 now a mother.

Loving the party stories!! Lemsips ha ha

I remember going to a friends house aged 13 and her dad gave us a cider each and let us watch the exocist

I thought it was sooooo wild and I was very cool.

LaQueenOfTheSpring

I'm with you one hundred per cent. I despair at some of the attitudes of posters on here, leaving condoms in bowls as if they were sweets ffs !! Jeez, no wonder we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Europe.

Sillybilly good point re explosion vs disapproval. You're right I never feared my parents' anger, just letting them down.

I think what this th read shows is that you cant 100% guarantee your teens wont be having sex. But you can minimose the risk by shaping their attitudes and values,allowing them to feel they can talk to you abput anything while still having boundaries and by physicallyparenting rthem - knowing where they are most of the time. Obviously all of these vary as they get older and varying your approach is the key.

but then I may be being naive. I have a 7 year old and a 5 year old who still need to sleep with us from time to time and think stinky pumps are the funniest things ever :o

And I do get LaQueens point that it is a difficult line between being open and providing condoms so tacitly encouraging sex. I do see that.

However for us the consequences of a teenage pregnancy in a girl or a boy are, in my view, too catastrophic to leave to just a good chat about rules, boundaries and expectations.

After all sex at 15 isn't really that uncommon is it.

As I said before I was and all my friends were and this was a girls grammar 1981.

The Brook advice centre across the road did a roaring trade.

Guess we'll just agree to disagree

"leaving condoms in bowls as if they were sweets ffs !! Jeez, no wonder we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Europe."

Yes condoms are notorious for causing pregnancy

Our high teen preg rates are down to our still very victorian attitudes about sex and our lack of communication about it from an early age.

dulldiedrie I think you will find that condoms are meant to prevent this? No?

Countries that have far earlier and better sex education than the UK have far lower teenage pregnancy rates

It's nonsensical, to equate the use of condoms and the pill in teenagers to high pregnancy rates!

Pregnancy amongst teens occurs when they are denied good access to contraception or more importantly dont think it will happen to them

Do you have teenagers?

LaQueen

SillyBilly total x post.

what's scary is this poor girl was a child not a teenager. perhaps the parents could have kept a closer eye when bf was round. yes I know they could do it anywhere.

Oh i can assure you- lack of condoms doesnt lead to abstinence

Yes agree condoms are to
Prevent diseases not pregnancy.

Or dd3 wouldn't be here to worry my life out.

sillyBilly we have disturbingly similar lives!!!

totally agree with la queen, far too blasé about sex in the uk as though it is the be all and end all.

we do! Freaky.

I too agree with laqueen!

Teen pregnancy is nothing to be proud of. Shameful actually.

Not totally sure about the France and Spain comments.

Yes they don't think their nice daughters should be having sex and are quite strict in them but the boys in the other hand are allowed far more freedom.

Good girls don't/bad girls do is the attitude in the continent.

Not really my cup of tea and why foreign men can be so bloody rude to British girls. Not nice.

more emphasis on waiting for someone special and to value yourself. sex isn't just mechanical but emotional.

This is a sad state of affairs and so is the story of the woman who had a baby at 15, has never worked and has told her teenager to have a baby herself so she can also be supported by the state and has done so. Her 12 year old also wants a baby.

"The overall trend in Europe since 1970 has been a decreasing total fertility rate, an increase in the age at which women experience their first birth, and a decrease in the number of births among teenagers.[19] Most continental Western European countries have very low teenage birth rates. This is varyingly attributed to good sex education and high levels of contraceptive use (in the case of the Netherlands and Scandinavia), traditional values and social stigmatization (in the case of Spain and Italy) or both (in the case of Switzerland).[20]"

Wikipedia. Sex education and contraceptive use are some of the acknowledged strategies.

Laqueen- "it just didn't seem to happen" because most of the girls who get pregnant have abortions. How would you know about these?