to wear my HUGE judgypants in MacDdonalds.

[burgercat]

Took dd to MacDonalds today. For us this is a holiday treat as we enjoy the odd burger, although dd is really just lured by the plastic tat in the happy meal TBH. She is slim and eats normally rest of time.

But, bloody hell, the people in there were beyond belief really. Makes me realize how other families actually live and why the health of the country is as it is.

Family 1- all huge, and the youngest dd (aged about 9) was definitely the fattest and not only that she was eating a full sized meal, and worst of all was wearing a full red velour lipsy tracksuit with gold embroidery!!!!!

Family 2- Two boys with their dad, all sat vacantly staring at their food and munching away. First boy opens his (supersize) fries and says "wheres the salt?" Dad doesn't say anything, just fishes in the papers on his tray and passes packet of salt to child. The chips are ALREADY covered in far too much salt, especially for kids, and if the child asks for salt this makes me think this is a regular thing for him, to cover his food in salt.

Don't these people take any responsibility for their health AT ALL?

My children will have their first mcdonalds for about 2 months tomorrow

I am just trying to figure out how to tell ds2, who is 2/3 pounds overweight, that non overweight mummy, daddy, brother and sister can eat in but he will have to stand on the pavement...doing jumping jacks

Cigarettes - Thanks for your advice but I'll stick with the advice from our dietician. Empty calories do count with a child that can't absorb fat in the first place and needs meds to do so.

And yes judge on first sight if you must - as the OP did. Judt don't be a bitch about it, like the OP was.

Would 20 nuggets be too many

I don't understand how you can judge when you are in there yourself. I go about once every 6 to 8 weeks. I have sat in there overweight and slim. Still same person.

Internal fat...that's all I'm saying

Nursey, 20 McNuggets would be too many for one person to eat in one sitting, unless they had been very active that day, or they were making up more than one meal, but the mad pricing of nuggets means that if you are buying any nuggets at all, you might as well buy 20, because its something like:

6 for £2.59
9 for £3.29
20 for £4.19

If I want nuggets, I will save some for later, sometimes putting them in the freezer, or share them if I am with someone else. But its rare for me to have nuggets, as I go to McDs about once or twice per month and 80% of the time its for either breakfast or just a coffee.

reindeer I find it very hard to believe that you have never ever judged anyone on first sight in your life .

Like I said I would never judge the child but yes I would the parents.

rufus don't get hysterical - 2/3 pounds over weight is not obese.

I love nuggets but I always end up going for the medium big mac meal

Our local maccy dees is just over a 2 mile round walk with no bus route from my house, so at least I burn a bit of it off

I'm not saying I haven't judged anyone - I probably have but not enough to start a thread on MN the next day, with a NC.

Surely even if you agree with the sentiments of the OP her tone was just one step too far??

Ironically I don't judge on diets because I know lots of larger/slimmer people for whom it's medication based (plus I'm not interested in other peoples diets). Other things I may have done.

I've only come on this thread to see what the 600+ post fuss was about and to say, I love your name, OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat. I had a massive tantrum on Ilkley Moor. DH and our two mates were bent double pissing themselves laughing at me. It's one of my most embarrassing, hilarious memories. They still bring it up 12-15 years on.

Gee thanks cigarettes

That grin thing meant I was being tongue in cheek, no hysteria here

Your original post did however jump from obese to overweight and back, hence my confusion

And you did say that overweight children shouldn't eat in mcdonalds, so I was just curious as to how overweight

Oh the shame of it...eating in mcdonalds. My name is mrs Thor and I am a mcdonalds eater. Probably once a week...with my ds...and yes social services have been informed

In fact was in yesterday, had my shorts on, hair up, specs on, no make up.......I know ...scum! It get worse though, my dh gets TWO cheeseburgers, large coke ( not diet) salts his chips then has a mc flurry....I know there is no hope for us

And no I don't notice other people op because I am too busy scoffing and more importantly having a laugh and a chat with my ds

I've got such a sore throat, I reckon salty fries would be seen as medicine right now?

Dammit I want a cheeseburger now. Stupid pregnancy cravings.

These threads are such bollocks - ok so the OP was a bit goady, but people on mumsnet are always falling over themselves to berate anyone for judging, as if they have never judged anyone in their life. Ever. Bullshit.

I went to Tenerife last year and in a waterpark there was this family of mum, dad, a couple of boys and a girl, aged between about 7 and 12. All of them were very overweight and all of them, especially the little girl, were burnt to a crisp with really painful sunburn.

Meh, I judged (although I didn't come on and start a thread on mumsnet about it, I'm not stupid!)

*painful looking sunburn that should be:

Were you judging them for being overweight or the sunburn? Or was it a double-whammy? You didn't start a thread but mentioned it here anyway... so helpful. Did you whip out some suncream/aftersun for the family or did you just think that their only interest would be icecream, hmm?

If I see people with sunburn, I think 'ouch' and, if I have it with me, offer suncream. It's not always easy to see that you're 'going red' when you're distracted enjoying yourself - and water makes it worse. I got badly sunburned as a kid, one minute fine, next minute lobster-like. I have very fair skin. It didn't keep happening though so, you're judgement would be entirely impotent as I think most judgy people are.

Lying It sounds to me like you are judging somepercentageontcool for not offering sun cream.

On another point, I am intrigued about the definition of "goady". It seems to me that if someone is offended by an OP, then that automatically makes the OP "goady".

Why don't people who don't like "goadiness" just not take part in the "goady" thread because taking part give the OP more attention? Surely better to ignore? Is there a rule on Mumsnet which means that you cannot post anything controversial that might offend some people?

Ive said it up thread we all judge on some level of consciousness at first glance. BUT you then, if you are decent enough do the following:

1. keep it to yourself, no harm done
2. reason with oneself as to how/why
3. think emphatically
4. offer help direct or indirect - depends on circumstances

I dont think people should be shot down for expressing their judgements about others I defy anyone not to have judged someone at some point about something.

It means issues can be discussed and people with narrow views may find themselved broadened. If you cant do this on an annoyamus forum where can you?

I went to a park yesterday and found myself judging people (the usual kid going up slide the wrong way, kicking my 2yr old in the face - no parent in sight) and I thought about this thread...does that make me such a bad person what if I am right? I think if we do judge we have to accept that sadly some people are right about others no matter how unpalatable that is and sometimes we are just wrong.

The difference is if we are wrong and act upon a judgement before collecting further facts then that can cause needless problems.

Name changing to sneer at children on the internet is a step up from a spot on inward judgement.

Of course we all make judgements of some kind. Not many people, thankfully go to the trouble of adopting a new persona specifically to post so spitefully about people whose circumstances they don't know.

Yes i get that has rattled a few people ilovesooty

So many threads seem to rest on the perceived spirit with which they are started. Maybe if this thread had been couched in generic terms about childhood obesity in a more constructive way then it woudl not have gone the way it has.

Oh come on lying , you go around offering sunburnt people suncream? Why the fuck can't people take responsibility for their own suncream? These people were in Tenerife with kids, it's not rocket science. Its not like it was England on an unexpectedly sunny day and people were caught out and so got a bit red.

I remember I bought my DS a McDonald's meal once burgercat. I hate myself too, I feel your pain.

I agree andsmile

And at least if the OP had posted this stuff using her usual username I'd be able to make the voice to give her a wide berth in future.

She didn't use her usual username, MN policy allowed her to hide her online identity and I'm therefore denied that choice. I still object very strongly to that. If you want to post stuff like the OP did you should use your normal persona to do it. I can then follow the suggestion up thread of not engaging with the thread - and that poster ever again.

I haven't rtft. I don't like McDonald's. But this fat woman fancies a burgerking now. A great big whopper with cheese.