to wear my HUGE judgypants in MacDdonalds.

[burgercat]

Took dd to MacDonalds today. For us this is a holiday treat as we enjoy the odd burger, although dd is really just lured by the plastic tat in the happy meal TBH. She is slim and eats normally rest of time.

But, bloody hell, the people in there were beyond belief really. Makes me realize how other families actually live and why the health of the country is as it is.

Family 1- all huge, and the youngest dd (aged about 9) was definitely the fattest and not only that she was eating a full sized meal, and worst of all was wearing a full red velour lipsy tracksuit with gold embroidery!!!!!

Family 2- Two boys with their dad, all sat vacantly staring at their food and munching away. First boy opens his (supersize) fries and says "wheres the salt?" Dad doesn't say anything, just fishes in the papers on his tray and passes packet of salt to child. The chips are ALREADY covered in far too much salt, especially for kids, and if the child asks for salt this makes me think this is a regular thing for him, to cover his food in salt.

Don't these people take any responsibility for their health AT ALL?

ivykaty, I've had it myself and it causes a random smell of 'burning'... and I'm nowhere near McDonalds!

You don't want it though - a nose peg would be better!

Some of the views on this thread are frightening and I can now understand why todays kids are the 1st generation expected not to live as long as their parents.

We've spent too many years excusing children being fat by saying "oh its only puppy fat" ,"we're all 'big boned' in our family","he likes his food"etc etc. There's even one comment up thread where the poster feels " Could I have ensured my son was thinner? Possibly, but I suppose I don't think it's the worst thing in the world that he isn't. Hence I don't get all judgy over the weight of other people's children."

Ok so there could possibly be a medical reason for a child to be overweight but lets face it how many overweight children do you see without overweight parents ? lets face it even the pet dog is overweight in some families yet they'll still insist that little johnny is only carrying puppy fat or its a genetic thing.

Sorry but I for one wouldn't be taking a overweight child to eat empty fat and sugar laden mcdonalds calories as a "treat" I'd be supporting them by feeding them a healthy diet with plenty of exercise - the mcdonalds "treat" would wait until they had a healthy BMI and they'd learned that the occasional unhealthy meal is fine in moderation and wont do any harm if you generally have a sensible and healthy lifestyle.

But floppy but refusing them access to foods you are much more likely to make it a 'forbidden fruit' and lead to a negative attitude towards food in the long run.

Surely the best way to teach children that things are fine in moderation is to demonstrate that to them rather than banning things?

Mm... orange truffle Bailey's. The calories are the bit with the flavour, you know.

Annie - your body is an engine and food merely the fuel. Why do you need orange truffle Baileys?

floppyfanjo... The time to educate children that a healthy lifestyle is needed and junk is ok in moderation is NOW... not just when they have a healthy BMI.

Following your advice could possibly lead a child to secret eating and would certainly make them feel as if they were 'worse' or 'different' in some way from their peers.

I agree that we have, as a society, a distorted view of 'normal weight' but, in my opinion, your suggestion is no remedy to that.

Healthy balanced diet is my priority. Not weight maintenance.

And that has room for the McDonalds and Chocolate too.

Not as a treat, but because we fancy it.

And honestly? Anyone who thinks that makes me a bad parent needs to seriously address their priorities. Because balding babies, staining them blue and inadvertently lecturing ten year olds and sex toys is what makes me a terrible parent. Not the odd chicken nugget.

You literally know nothing about these two families, apart from the fact that you were all in McDonalds at the same time.

YABVU

*and = about

Because balding babies, staining them blue and inadvertently lecturing ten year olds and sex toys is what makes me a terrible parent

I think we need to know more

@HoneyDragonDoesNotGiveAShit

In fairness to HQ, they do have rather a lot on their plates at the moment. And as we are all playing nicely (op excepted) I think they are opting to get back to us when they can.

HoneyDragon. We have been, ahem, slightly busy sending out about a million and nine emails explaining how to reset passwords and the like...

We are, though, sorry for the delay in responding. We haven't wanted to post without reading the entire thread (which, if we're completely honest, we still haven't had a chance to do. Not entirely ...)

In answer to what seems to be the main query - we don't have any plans to alter our name-changing policy. However, deliberately inflammatory posting is against Talk Guidelines and if a user seems to make a habit of it, or name-changing to mislead repeatedly, we'll ban them.

But, bloody hell, the people in there were beyond belief really.

You could be talking about my local Waitrose. I think I might start a thread. We get a lot of braying and bad behaviour. Some of the children are nightmares, too. No wonder, with the cake counter doing a roaring trade with mummies buying sugary fat-filled treats for their dc, and allowing them to eat them before they have paid

FWIW, we did eat in the Waitrose cafe one evening, and thought the food was mediocre. McDonalds would have been far better value.

Floppy I for one wouldn't be taking my DCs to a joint if I genuinely felt like that whether my kid was fat or not and I certainly wouldn't be bloody sniggering at them. That 9yo in the OP can always lose her weight. The OP on the other hand will always have such a stinking attitude. Oh and in answer to your other question...plenty. Next?

FWIW, we did eat in the Waitrose cafe one evening, and thought the food was mediocre. McDonalds would have been far better value

Hear hear....and the service was even worse!

and for you Dawn.
For refuelling only though, you understand.

But floppy but refusing them access to foods you are much more likely to make it a 'forbidden fruit' and lead to a negative attitude towards food in the long run.
Surely the best way to teach children that things are fine in moderation is to demonstrate that to them rather than banning things

sirzy I agree that ideally a child should have grown up with no food being banned and everything is fine in moderation, but I do think that if a child is medically obese something drastic needs to be done immediately to get them to a healthy weight(ie a diet) if only to stop them becoming the victims of bullies and to get their health back on track.

I agree honey, especially for children it shouldn't be about weight but about a healthy lifestyle and most importantly a healthy relationship with food and exercise.

How often do we see on threads on here that people can trace their weight problems back to how their parents treated food around them and in so many cases it is those who had parents who were very strict about foods where the issues have developed.

But floppy diets don't work for most people. They don't work for adults so they are highly unlikely to work for children. Diets are generally very restrictive diets which is hard to maintain in the long run.

The best way to get sustainable changes is via a healthy lifestyle rather than restricting foods through a diet. Simply cutting out mcdonalds and anything else deemed bad isn't going to provide a long term solution to anything

Onlt

Only 1.9million DawnMumsnetHQ Piece of Piss surely? .

I'm just really pissed off that you all have waitrose cafes tbh. We've only just upgraded to having a sainsburys one after the Starbucks was ripped out. .

We don't even have a waitrose, the closest is over 30 minutes drive away. We do have a mcdonalds and a KFC next to each other though.

Guess we aren't upmarket enough for Waitrose

OP, I feel sorry for you. Your life is obviously lacking in someway, as you have to start a thread attacking others, being nasty and sneery, in order to draw attention to yourself.

Even sadder is that you don't have the backbone to post under your real name.
I truly hope your nasty attitude and judgemental behaviour is not apparent to your DC. When they hear an adult vocalising and acting in this manner, they then think it is ok to behave in such a vile manner. God help their school friends who don't come up to your families standards.

Ps, I am very overweight, due to various medications I am on. I often see people looking down their noses if I eat chips in a restaurant, or if I have anything other than tomatoes in my shopping trolley. I don't give a shiny shite. If you find it necessary to tell your friends, or go online and tell everyone you saw a fat woman with some cake and crisps in her basket, then go ahead. It tells your friends more about you than it does about me. In time they will realise that you are a bitch and they will be the next subject when you feel you want some attention.

Ours is a little one that is a 20minute walk and a 30minute bus ride away. I only go when I'm around there. McDs and a KFC? Is the KFC in case the McDs don't fill you up?

Blimey. Have just woken up
And found the thread has been reported becausr someone doesn't like it

Fact is that an obese nine year old is something to be judge about. I'm sure the op wasn't blaming the child, she was blaming the parents.

MacD's is not the problem though, I see many overweight/obese families in Ikea canteen, and Pizza Hut and Costa Coffee.

Was in Denmark recently and didn't see any fat people at all. They have MacDonalds and seem to enjoy pastries and beer. Difference is that they are incredibly active, cycling everywhere and there is not the sane emphasis on chowing down on crap as a bonding/leisure pursuit.Crisps and choc are relatively expensive over there.

By the way - what is 'fat shaming'? I hear it alot at the moment on here, has become fashionable. What does it mean?