to wear my HUGE judgypants in MacDdonalds.

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Took dd to MacDonalds today. For us this is a holiday treat as we enjoy the odd burger, although dd is really just lured by the plastic tat in the happy meal TBH. She is slim and eats normally rest of time.

But, bloody hell, the people in there were beyond belief really. Makes me realize how other families actually live and why the health of the country is as it is.

Family 1- all huge, and the youngest dd (aged about 9) was definitely the fattest and not only that she was eating a full sized meal, and worst of all was wearing a full red velour lipsy tracksuit with gold embroidery!!!!!

Family 2- Two boys with their dad, all sat vacantly staring at their food and munching away. First boy opens his (supersize) fries and says "wheres the salt?" Dad doesn't say anything, just fishes in the papers on his tray and passes packet of salt to child. The chips are ALREADY covered in far too much salt, especially for kids, and if the child asks for salt this makes me think this is a regular thing for him, to cover his food in salt.

Don't these people take any responsibility for their health AT ALL?

This is why I think it is not OK to be obese in childhood. Yes, I make a judgement on it because we all make judgements about other people even if we shouldn't.

Health risks
Being overweight or obese in childhood has consequences for health in both the short term and the longer term. Once established, obesity is notoriously difficult to treat, so prevention and early intervention are very important.
The emotional and psychological effects of being overweight are often seen as the most immediate and serious by children themselves. They include teasing and discrimination by peers; low self-esteem; anxiety and depression. In one study, severely obese children rated their quality of life as low as children with cancer on chemotherapy. Obese children may also suffer disturbed sleep and fatigue.
Overweight and obese children are more likely to become obese adults, and have a higher risk of morbidity, disability and premature mortality in adulthood. Although many of the most serious consequences may not become apparent until adulthood, the effects of obesity – for example, raised blood pressure, fatty changes to the arterial linings and hormonal and chemical changes such as raised cholesterol and metabolic syndrome – can be identified in obese children and adolescents.
Some obesity-related conditions can develop during childhood. Type 2 diabetes, previously considered an adult disease, has increased dramatically in overweight children as young as five, and has been dubbed ‘diabesity’. The global rise in obesity and Type 2 diabetes among children and adolescents has led to an urgent call for action by the International Diabetes Federation, which warns that the world is currently facing a twin epidemic of obesity and Type 2 diabetes in young people. Other health risks of childhood obesity include early puberty, eating disorders such as anorexia and bulimia, skin infections, asthma and other respiratory problems. Some musculoskeletal disorders are also more common, including slipped capital femoral epiphysis (SCFE) and tibia vara (Blount disease).

www.noo.org.uk/NOO_about_obesity/child_obesity/Health_risks

MissPixie Very good Migsy. Now can you link to how many of those in your figures have cancer and other medical issues?

No, I'm not doing that. That is your argument not mine so I'll wait for you to provide those.

Would it be OK to allow children to smoke too?

Yes, keeps them nice and slim.

Catmint I stopped going to weightwatchers when I heard the leader give this advice to several people. "It's not the effect of the meds".

I don't think our intrepid/insipid OP has gone anywhere... she's sitting somewhere (possibly McDonalds - or even Burgerking), reading each and every post and rubbing her furry, troll-like thighs together at the thought of everybody falling over themselves to say their piece.

I think that it really doesn't matter what we say, it's numbers - number of posts on the thread - that's what hits her spot. That's why anybody posts threads like this... that and pure spite and malice. Ineffective-in-RL people who don't feel loved or appreciated do this, I think.

Alright there, OP? Enjoying yourself? I think you've gone a step too far this time...

I've already stated I can't link. I will take that as a no then. That you can't find them that is. That's fine too because there's plenty of examples given in this thread.

And probably still posting under her usual nn/ done another name change Lying

I hope they choke on their McShake.

Migsy I agree that it is not okay to be obese in childhood, but I don't think that was what was being disputed. It was the bullying, nasty attitude shown towards a child who was obese and I cautioned that to judge based on appearances is ignorant given that we have no knowledge of what has caused the child to be obese in the first place.

Steroids make our children lay down weight like giant toddlers, with chubby arms and legs. Their faces become puffy too. DD wasn't even eating that much, but steroids do help you to gain weight easily. Many medical conditions use them. I am not for one second suggesting that every fat kid has cancer or another medical condition needing steroids, but there will be many who do. So when people go around with judgy little sniggers at them, as explained in this thread, and they see, it sinks in. DD is 15 and incredibly conscious of how she looks now. She doesn't want to wear a swimming costume because of it. It's awful to see her go through this and she follows a diet and exercise plan to try and help her regain fitness although it will take time thanks to how fucked up her system is from chemo. Yet when she goes out, she will be openly judged by people who just see that she's big. Great.

It is not okay to make other people feel shit about themselves when, 9 times out of 10, they already do without you adding to it. This is called bullying.

Maybe it would have been easier if she'd stayed bald and in a wheelchair so that everyone was clear that there was more to it.

FFS.

I don't think our intrepid/insipid OP has gone anywhere... she's sitting somewhere (possibly McDonalds - or even Burgerking), reading each and every post and rubbing her furry, troll-like thighs together at the thought of everybody falling over themselves to say their piece

I agree with misspixietrix I bet she's posting under her usual username that she's so keen to protect.

Still no word from HQ.

If McDonald's is a treat, given that the quality of the food is questionable, is it any wonder much of the country has food issues? Food should be fuel. Not junk = a treat.

Actually I think the reason this country has food issues is a) the links to poverty b) the ridiculous standards of 'beauty' that society is expected to conform too.

In fairness to HQ, they do have rather a lot on their plates at the moment. And as we are all playing nicely (op excepted) I think they are opting to get back to us when they can.

Honey where did you get your owl onesie from?

BHS because I'm classy and gorgeous! and that is where classy and gorgeous people shop.

God that 'food = fuel and nothing more' business depresses the crap out of me.

But surely a healthy diet is about being balanced and that should include things that aren't ideal, in moderation.

To judge someone because you have seen them eating something less than ideal once is madness. Im not keen on the idea of any food being used as reward/treat but that doesn't mean I think that eating such foods is bad.

One meal paints only a tiny picture. If you were to look at me now you would see an overweight woman eating chocolate - what you won't see if that overweight woman ran 5k yesterday, swam this morning, has lost a lot of weight in the last year and will eat 'good' foods for the rest of the day. It is very easy to make the wrong judgement about someone when you don't have any real facts about a situation

Randall - I meant what Sirzy has said. I don't think it is a good idea to say that something which is bad for you is a treat. Why would you want to treat yourself to something that is bad for you when you should just see food as fuel and have things in a sensible amount? Making something a treat or bad for you makes it more desirable.

Ooh, going to McDonald's would not be my idea of a treat! I would rather skip a meal than eat there!

I like chocolate, I have it in a sensible amount, it is my treat

I like drambuie, I have it in a sensible amount, it is my treat

Food is not just fuel, it's supposed to be a pleasure...in moderation obviously

Honey you're the OP aren't you? Or do you only glare and not snigger. Is sniggering considered too middleclass? . I actually can't stand onesies I think there over priced babygros (and how the hell do you go for a wee?) But I might invest in one for my stealth mcDs visits.

kinky

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe I think perhaps I need to get anosmia then I would be able to smell the rotten place. Strangley - my cousin has this but that was due to being shot in the head he lost his eye as well as all sense of taste and smell - he still didn't eat in Mcdonalds though

OP - kindly do fuck off dear. I'm sick of the nasty, invideous, 'I'm better than you' attitude that seems to be increasingly evident lately.

I suppose all those ignorant twats who in times gone by enjoyed venting their bigoted views unchecked needed to find something else to feel superior and smug about. So healthy eating and other people weight is it....