To absolutely fucking hate...

[MinnieMouse5678]

...kids that squeal at the top of their voices for absolutely no reason than wanting attention!

And also their parents for not making them shut the hell up!

Im not talking babies or even toddlers, but young children just bloody squealing! Argh!!!!!!

Namecall all you like, I really have no time for your complete inability to read and comprehend what people actually post

What gave you the impression I have an inability to read and comprehend? If you read and comprehend my threads I didn't mention SN.

I never namecall on MN but your post was so provocative and you know it. Well done.

*Lying Witch... well said.I might now be the biggest twat on the thread,but I have seen these people almost lying in wait to ambush threads to derail and make excuses for their own situation."

How the hell do you think "these people" lie in wait to ambush threads, that makes no sense? And make excuses for having a child with SN, really? Nice!

Onesieone... Truthfully, I don't get it but then I don't have a child with SN so I don't know what it's like and what the 'triggers' are.

Even re-reading the OP, I don't see what you see in it. I see the OP referring to 'kids that squeal for attention'. For me, the emotive word is 'squealing' because I instantly remember how it makes my ears hurt and wouldn't like it whoever was doing it. That doesn't mean that I'd make you feel bad in any way if it was your child, I'd just scuttle off to save my ears, which are really sensitive to loud noise.

Why do posters with children with special needs come onto these threads and post, knowing full well that whatever the complaint is, it doesn't relate to their circumstances

How do you know it doesn't relate?
Do you somehow possess special powers that allow you to see whether a child has a hidden disability?
You have no idea whatsoever where a child is squealing because they are a brat/have shit parents or because they have a SN you can't see. They tend not to wear a huge sign pointing it out.

Can't say it bothers me really. I wouldn't let mine do it but it's not that annoying.

I do find the 'these people' and the waiting to derail thread stuff pretty nasty though. And unreasonable. Yes, it's unlikely that the situation described in the op referred to a child with sn. But threads like these are a good place to put the other side of the story. Having a child with sn has seriously curtailed the types of things we are able to do as a family and honestly, after some trips out when something unforeseen has triggered a massive meltdown I come home and weep. I'm shitting myself at the thought of him having to participate at the Easter fair next week at his new school.

It's hard when something takes over your life so much not to make comment when the op is relevant to your experience. If you don't like that pov, ignore it. It is a valid take on the situation in question though.

As the mother of a DS with SNs.... yes kids that squel unnecessary are really annoying. I really do wish that SNs wasn't dragged into every debate. Kids without SNs do actually squeal - and irritate the life out of other people.

Maybe I'm immune to it, possibly after working in primary schools for years? I honestly don't hear squealing children very often, if at all.

Lying - did you just say that you assume all threads are only ever about NT children? Sorry if I have misunderstood, it's been a long day.

YANBU! This drives me crazy. As for those people going "oh but what can I dooooo", may I suggest that the screamer is given a sharp slap on the leg? If done consistently they will eventually learn not to scream...

OP has a point, children need to learn to communicate appropriately.

My DS(8) will sometimes use a high whiney voice that is so grating. I ask him to stop and speak propely.

I stopeed being friends with someone becuase their DS at aged 5 had full on meltdowns to which she did nothing. This was not part of a strategy, just acceptance, lazy lazy acceptance.

If I am anywhere and this screaming thing happens from an older child - I can be ok...but yes hate it if I see parent doing fuck all about it.

But then I think I got judged for practically growling at my DS for the umpteenth time for not listening and he kept asking the same question. This was in the supermarket - I probably made more noise than him.

What is the answer, either complete acceptance of differences or become 'borg' like citizens.

Yanbu....it's like finger nails down the blackboard

andsmile exactly. My DD aged 9 sometimes gets shrill when she wants something she's not getting....I speak very sharply to her and it stops.

I assume she'll grow out of it...it's a new thing since she gained a little independence from me. In school there are some smaller kids who just rush about ROARING at the top of their voices and it annoys the shite out of me.

...find something worthwhile to whinge about.

Red didn't you get the memo? All threads on MN only relate to NT children so as the parent of a child with SN you are not allowed to derail, ambush, make excuses for your lot contribute.

Im sure the OP and myself do not knowingly applie the same level of expectations in terms of behaviour to any children with SN.

If someone who knew me in RL thought that I did I would be extremely offended. But I appreciate people on here who are posting this don't.

I will not apologise for not being able to 'see' potentially invisible SN's. I dont know what the answer is.

refocus you kind of undermine any valid arguments by resorting to opening your post with calling someone a name - labelling them in fact. You hardly championing SN by raising awareness in that manner.

Well not all children who make loud noises etc are SN?

"A sharp slap on the leg?

Good grief."

Yep! I'll go along with that. Cured 2 squealey daughters, now grown up. They still speak to me. Their brothers didn't squeal but could be equally annoying in other ways.

Guilty! My 3yo DS loves to squeal like Peppa Pig!

Yes but he is 3! I think OP means older school age + children (?)

It's evident to most people that the OP was not referring to SN children. Surely everyone would accept that (screaming etc in SN cases as fair enough.)

There are however plenty of other people with non SN kids who let their child's desire to scream their head off come first above anyone else's right to not be subjected to their screaming. For instance I live next door to some, so I know for a fact they're not SN, just inconsiderate/selfish and unable to tell their children to consider other people, or tell them that it's appropriate to make as much noise as they want in some places (eg park) but not in others (eg library.)

As for how it's about being in charge, telling them firmly maybe like this Some parents do not even seem to point out to their children that it's not okay.

Fucking hell, there are some awful attitudes towards the parents of children with SN on this thread. 'these people'? 'hardly championing awareness'?

Some of the people on here need to give their heads a shake.