To absolutely fucking hate...

[MinnieMouse5678]

...kids that squeal at the top of their voices for absolutely no reason than wanting attention!

And also their parents for not making them shut the hell up!

Im not talking babies or even toddlers, but young children just bloody squealing! Argh!!!!!!

Fanjo I think she sounds adorable! I hope she continues to have a wonderful time.

Fanjo (and my auto-correct just changed your name to Gandhi) your DD sounds a treaty and my first reaction would be to grin back and ruffle her hair, but I tend to hold back on the contact bit, just in case.

I would have still grinned and grinned though. How fab she sounds! How could anyone not feel gladness at her reaction?

She would be so pleased if you did that :)

I posted this:
Why do posters with children with special needs come onto these threads and post, knowing full well that whatever the complaint is, it doesn't relate to their circumstances. It's as if it's an outlet for them to needlessly rant when it's not their children being referred to at all. That aggressive, 'I'm waiting...' what is that all about?

I'm posting to clarify because it seems to be a flashpoint for some posters and it's not my intention to do that. Another poster said "I'm waiting"... as if they were demanding a response. Hope that's cleared up.

What I meant by the comment was that some posters seem to come on to a thread, get the general gist (but not necessarily the point) and relate what is said directly to their own personal circumstances, refusing to accept any other viewpoint, always ready to shout 'disablism'. That isn't fair. All that is likely to achieve is that people stop posting and don't bother to engage at all. Maybe that's the answer?

What is wrong with somebody saying that they don't like screaming/loud noises/whatever. The stimulus is the same, whoever does it and people have the right not to like it. I said that I wouldn't personally tut or cat's bum mouth or make any comment whatsoever but would remove myself from the noise. It wouldn't matter to me whether it would be a child with SN or not, it's just a noise and my reaction would be the same.

I don't think the OP had an agenda with her post but it was perhaps not very carefully worded and perhaps it should have been clarified. She's been accused of hating children... that's pathetic and was needlessly insulting unless of course, anybody knows different? In that vein several posters have been rude, dismissive and downright aggressive. I don't care how many others chip in saying they weren't because those same posters always are and I post around them. On the other side of the coin, I think WetAugust has posted really effectively. Seems others share that view also.

Everybody has the right, within guidelines, to post. It doesn't mean that only some posters get the right of reply.

knowing full well that whatever the complaint is, it doesn't relate to their circumstances

sorry but if the complaint is screaming kids - an your child with SN screams it IS about your child - as much as it is about any other child

I understand that you did not intend to create a flashpoint LyingWitch.

But,if you have read subsequent comments, do you see that, on reflection, part of the implication is a tad unreasonable ?

Everyone comes to a thread from their personal viewpoint, from their broad experience. That will include those who have been alarmed or annoyed by random screaming, those whoseNT children happened to be screamers, those who don't mind chikdren screaming because everything chikdren do is wonderful () and those whose lives are difficult because their chikdren cannot help screaming.

To say 'you can post but your view is not relevant because we are not talking about your children' misses the point really.
People always bring their experiences, defensiveness, annoyances etc etc to a thread.
It's not really reasonable to say a substantial section of mn must not comment just because it's a difficult message.
At least I don't think it is.

No it is not.

No it is not.

Pagwatch, Yes, I can see that; it's defensive and was unnecessary. I'm not saying that anybody shouldn't comment on anything they want to. What I'm trying (badly) to say is that many posters on this thread have said they don't like that particular noise. I would have though that every parent on the planet would be nodding their heads. Clearly, I'm wrong about that. There are some parents who extrapolate that to mean that their children who have SN are not accepted because they do this sometimes.

I don't have a child with SN but I have plenty of people around me who do. I don't make a distinction between children, they are just children and some have additional needs. I think most people treat children just as children - what else are they? What children do however, impacts on others and allowances have to be made because of circumstances. All fine; I said upthread that I just assume there's SN at the root, whether there actually is or isn't, I have no idea.

But for crying out not too loud, saying that you don't like screaming noise (and plenty of children do that because they themselves like the noise) isn't discriminatory or disablist - it's a bald statement on dislike of noise, not the purveyor of it as some have asserted - and I can't see how in any way that is reasonable.

As always with threads, there's the potential for them to be blown up into something they weren't intended to be; I don't know if it's happened here but I think this thread is yet another example of one that has reached a crescendo of bad-tempered stalemate rather than any useful discussion. I'm excepting several posts because there are some posters who really make their point well, they always do and I'm including yours in that. I will leave it there as I really, really have no wish to upset anybody.

I understand what you are saying Lying.
I think that discussion on here is adversarial more often than not tbh so some topics always kick off. Like sahm vs wohm.
Now those threads are a real nightmare.....

This was not a thread about disliking the sound of screaming.
From the start the tone was unpleasant and judgemental and critical.

Fact, having just re read the op, I have to say its worse than I first thought. "aibu to absolutely fucking hate kids who squeal at the top of eir voices....
Not hating the noise. Hating the child.
Very strong and unpleasant words.

Apparently she deregistered.

Oh well, hope she enjoyed me getting a kicking.

Either goady, or we were expected to join in the slagging off of parents. This wasn't on the same level as say:

"I think the colour avocado green is ghastly. Would I be unreasonable to turn down a dinner invitation, as they have avocado green walls in their dining room? I really don't think I could stomach eating surrounded by that colour. Is this a reasonable reaction to avocado green walls or should I force myself to push through it?"

We weren't supposed to be talking to the OP about how she felt.

Thanks. Is much needed today. Has been a rotten day from minute I opened my eyes.

I think the OP knew exactly what she was doing and it was quite obvious to me. I knew exactly how it would go as soon as I saw the thread title. Reminds me a bit of a banned poster tbh.

Sorry..not meaning to hold a pity party.

Why do posters with children with special needs come onto these threads and post, knowing full well that whatever the complaint is, it doesn't relate to their circumstances

I have children. This is Mumsnet. One of my dc squeals and screams. Yes, I think it does relate to my circumstances, thanks.

Yes 3 out of 4 of my dc have SN, they are still children , they can just need a little more help/understanding at times.

Maybe it was them and they posted then deregistered to avoid detection?

Oops, left bit off.

The OP was more of a: "am I being unreasonable to hate people who buy avocadoes in the supermarket and queue behind me at the checkout? I really hate fuckers who paint their houses avocado green, too. The person next door has painted their door avocado, and dropped my house price by £1960.35."