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AIBU?

to not be ogled in a feeding room

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spinnergeologist · 20/03/2014 03:09

Hi,

I was out yesterday and popped into mother care to use their feeding room which has two comfy chairs a bench and changing facilities. I settled my bb for a feed (breast-feeding) and a couple walked into the room. I actually don't mind men being around in the feeding room (nothing to see with a well placed muslin), plus I know a few single dads who feel they lack decent facilities for them to give a feed, but when my hubby has been in the reverse situation he has always asked the other lady if she would mind if he stays. This bloke didn't, sat opposite me and spent the entire time staring as though he had never seen someone breastfeed before. I expect that kind of behaviour in public places but not in feeding rooms, their are benches outside for people to wait. I didn't ask him to leave as his partner was struggling with a new baby and seemed to need his morel (he didn't actually help physically) support and I felt sorry for her.

AIBU to expect people to have a bit of courtesy?

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Devora · 20/03/2014 19:43

I can't believe how many people are rushing on here to tell OP to get over herself, that no man would leer at her breastfeeding, that it's impossible to tell whether someone is ogling or just 'zoned out'.

Sheesh. Whatever happened to 'we believe you'?

I didn't read OP saying men shouldn't be in bf rooms, just that it's common courtesy not to stare inappropriately at a woman' breasts while they're doing so.

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candycoatedwaterdrops · 20/03/2014 19:53

I don't get what he was ogling at if there was nothing to see though, so how can he be 'guilty'?

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GimmeDaBoobehz · 20/03/2014 19:55

I'm one of the rare breed who doesn't really mind someone watch me breastfeed. It's completely natural and unless they are saying something leery or are trying to touch me, I wouldn't actually do anything.

Sometimes it's hard to interpret what a 'look' means if you see what I mean.

I could be staring because I'm fascinated at your tattoo and yet you could think I was being judgmental.

I could be looking at your lovely legs and thinking, 'Wow I wish my legs were as thin/toned as that' and yet you could think I was ogling you.

I don't doubt it was uncomfortable for you though OP. It's not nice when something just makes you feel uncomfortable and you are well within round rights to not feel comfortable. I am sure with the setting it would be perfectly acceptable to ask the man politely not to look or that it is making you feel uncomfortable.

We all have different boundaries and often people forget that.

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crispyporkbelly · 20/03/2014 20:17

Indeed. I believe you, op. I'm sure you know when someone is ogling you.

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TheRealAmandaClarke · 20/03/2014 20:46

Do men only ogle if your breasts are uncovered?
Gotta say that's news to me.

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SaucyJack · 20/03/2014 20:50

I don't think men should be in breastfeeding rooms- ogling or not.

BF rooms are there so to offer those who want it a bit of privacy. Having some random bloke in there completely defeats the purpose.

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candycoatedwaterdrops · 20/03/2014 20:53

Aren't they just feeding rooms rather than BFing rooms?

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crispyporkbelly · 20/03/2014 20:55

Exactly Saucy.

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slithytove · 20/03/2014 21:18

I think a feeding room (and usually changing too) should be for whoever needs it. Logically the only prequisite is that they have a child! Surely gender doesn't matter? I wouldn't like to think that men couldn't change or feed their babies in these designated rooms purely by dint of their gender.

Of course no one should stare, regardless of gender.

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ShadowFall · 20/03/2014 21:28

This particular man wasn't doing any kind of feeding, or physically helping at all, according to the OP.

And given the differences in attitudes towards public breastfeeding and public bottlefeeding, I think it's reasonable to assume that most feeding rooms are intended primarily for use by breastfeeding mothers.

I can safely say that I've never once heard anyone say that they find bottlefeeding offensive, "disgusting", or something that should only be done in private.

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rinabean · 20/03/2014 21:29

Yeah but no-one tells men they're disgusting and need to go in the toilets to bottle feed a baby. And men don't feel naked in any way bottle feeding a baby. It's not really the same. I'm not saying they should be breastfeeding only, I'm just saying you can't compare a breastfeeding woman to a bottle-feeding man like that.

Sorry that man ogled you OP. You wouldn't have been unreasonable to tell him to stop, it wasn't on.

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rinabean · 20/03/2014 21:29

x-posted, I agree with ShadowFall

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surromummy · 20/03/2014 21:57

YANBU

for the record, not all women can breastfeed standing up etc, at a K cup I always had to hold my breast back from my babys nose otherwise they would struggle to breath, BF was mostly a big faff, lots of propping with cushions etc, very difficult to get comfortable.

Imo all feeding rooms should be b/f & women only Biscuit. a man cannot help breastfeed and serve no purpose in them other than to make othe women feel uncomfortable.

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slithytove · 20/03/2014 22:56

A feeding room is a feeding room. They have bottle warmers, seats etc. I imagine a parent feeding a young baby wants to sit down regardless of method. And if that parent is male, they have every right to be in there. Ditto for nappy changing. Because they often serve a dual purpose.

I wouldn't have thought anyone needs to be in there if not performing one of these activities.

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fatlazymummy · 20/03/2014 23:33

I agree, breastfeeding rooms should be for women only. Some women do not want to breast feed in front of men, and why should they?
And to those who say 'breastfeeding isn't sexy' - newsflash - it is for some men. It's actually quite a common fetish.

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TheRealAmandaClarke · 21/03/2014 00:52

I have to retract my earlier comment because it seems that ppl are saying that men shouldn't be in the rooms (well they hadn't said so earlier so I guess I was right at the time Hmm)
It's an interesting one. Yes, the rooms are not just for bf and a man might (obviously not very often) need to feed or change a baby, but if you want to feed in private it can clearly be off putting to have a man there in close proximity. Especially if the bugger's gawping' at you.
One should feel safe in such places. Maybe if men as a group didn't feel the need/ right to objectify women then we'd be more comfortable. Oops. A bit radical.

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ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight · 21/03/2014 01:28

I'd have done the old popeye at him

O.o like that

Smile Have done on many an occasion. have also asked if they'd like me to flop the other one out as that works too as well as asking if they want a closer look

But then I've also had a shouting match with someone who asked why I couldn't feed in the toilets "how about you eat your dinner in te bog dickhead then I may consider feeding my baby in the bog too"

Just doing my bit for the breastfeeding 'movement' GrinGrin

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PatrickStarisabadbellend · 21/03/2014 01:40

You should of squirted him with it.

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MusicalEndorphins · 21/03/2014 01:43

I would have asked him what he was staring at! And pointedly turned my chair away from him. Very uncool for him to assume you were ok with him there.

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Cariad007 · 21/03/2014 03:21

I'm with Devora - I can't believe people are telling OP to get over herself. One poster even said she should be grateful that a bloke was looking at her. FFS!

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CrohnicallyChanging · 21/03/2014 07:03

Some feeding rooms are clearly breastfeeding only- others are for both. One local child orientated store has a corner of the cafe screened off, with 4 comfy chairs with footstools and a cold water dispenser in there. Nothing else. No bottle warmer. No nappy changing facilities. I have been in at least 2 other feeding rooms that are clearly designed for breastfeeding rather than feeding in general, and one feeding room I went into had a sign specifically asking you not to change nappies in there due to the smell and hygiene.

I think it's OK to bring a DP into the room if you need a hand- but it's only polite to ask if there's anyone else in there/comes in while you're there (and if someone seems uncomfortable that's a no), and DP should be focussing his attention on you and baby.

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TheRealAmandaClarke · 21/03/2014 07:15

Grin things that go bump in the night

cariad it was I who said she should be grateful. Or that she was making it up. Directly after ppl had said she was wrong and he probably wasn't looking. I'm very surprised that the sarcasm was missed. I hope no one else thought it was a genuine comment, especially given the tone of all my other posts.

Personally, I'm not bothered by ppl looking at me. I have a very high threshold for self consciousness. But most ppl do mind. And it is considered rude to stare. I went to bf group with ds and there were a few man there as they were trying to encourage it for support for their bf partners. But even for me that was a bit much. None of them were staring. But I think that's different from a feeding/ changing room. Very very occasionally a man will need to change or feed a baby when out shopping. So I imagine it's discriminatory to exclude them from such a designated area. But in the group it was a bit awkward cause we were mainly very new and nervous blubbering wrecks mums struggling to get the feeding right. It's not just your boobs potentially on show, it raw emotions, lack of confidence and flabby baby tums.

My dh will look at a bf mum, and bottle feeding mum. Then he'll turn to me and tell me who's bf and who's AF. Hmm
if he starting staring or gazing or "zoning out" he'd get a swift reminder about his manners.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 21/03/2014 11:45

I'm glad he gets a swift reminder, TheReal. Why does he feel the need to comment at all on something that is none of his business? It sounds a bit of a stupid 'show and tell' compulsion to me.

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ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight · 21/03/2014 11:47

Even I got the sarcasm Amanda and I'm usually the last one to work those things out Smile

Grin

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crispyporkbelly · 21/03/2014 12:41

AF?

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