To think Carrie Bradshaw has no redeeming qualities?

[losercruiser]

I just finished the episode where she invites Big to stay with her and Aidan in their cabin in the woods.

Now if my boyfriend cheated on me (not just a one off but had a full blown affair with a married woman) and we had got to the point where I had somehow managed to forgive him and we were trying again. If we went on a weekend break and he invited the other woman because she was having boyfriend problems and they were good friends - I'd think fuck that!

I know Aidan didnt have to put up with that but there are many other examples of her not having any redeeming qualities -

Berating Charlotte for not offering to lend her thousands of dollars.
Always talking about herself - I remember when Stanford called her out on it.
Letting Aidan propose to her when she obviously didnt want to marry him.

But Aidan is good looking. I couldn't pay attention on anything else, when he was on.

I've never seen a full episode
I've seen bits of about 3 episodes
None of the films

I'm deep me.

Deep.

She does always seem to be exhaustingly high maintenance.

Aidan had zero appeal for me. He want half as good looking as he thought he was. I liked Big. I liked the way Big and Carrie were polite to bar tenders, waiters etc in that rather formal, almost courtly way Americans have.

Argh wasn't as good looking.

I haven't watched satc2 because I want the last Aiden/Carrie encounter to be him with his baby looking so happy and her chasing around Berger. Why couldn't they leave it be?!

She is such a cunt isn't she

that goblin Steve... I so agree.

Actually I just remembered the worst moment by far. After baby Brady was born Carrie got to hold him before Miranda!!!!

And his baby was called Tate. Tate.

'the glorious Blair Underwood'

Oh hell yes. Was there ever a finer-looking man than him?

I didn't mind that all the characters were a bit flawed. Made them more real somehow. Also that SJP isn't conventionally pretty, and (in the early series especially) could often be seen looking a bit rough hanging round her flat in baggy old men's underpants. It was an aesthetic we hadn't really seen on TV before - you'd never have seen any of the Friends girls looking like that, for example. I hated that in later series it got more glossy and they were all in designer ballgowns all the time

And his baby was called Tate. Tate

Yes it was. I know because he called him "Tater Tot" and I wanted to punch him in his fucking face.

And cut his hair.

Urgh, count it used to make me cringe seeing her in those grey undies. Still does!

Another thing that annoys me about Carrie, is her finances. I understand she has a column, and then writes the books, ect. But her apartment in NYC must be costing her a fortune plus all the clothes/shoes she buys & i know there is money references, but at some points in her life, it is just so unrealistic.

& am i right in thinking that when Charlotte divorced Trey, she got a million pounds?

Finally.... Last year, i started watching the box set but about half way through i found myself feeling really depressed and just over-thinking everything to do with men/relationships. it had such an influence on me this time round, was so bizarre!

Iliked Steve and Big and Harry maybe I just kiked the men appart from Aidan

Berger was a total whiny knob aswell, he had the makings of an emotionally abusive husband, bitchin about his wife's success.

No Charlotte got her apartment (probably worth a hell of a lot more) and the engagement ring which Carrie emotionally blackmailed her into giving it to her so she could pay the deposit on her own flat.

That apartment of hers is worth millions of pounds. Was it rent-controlled?

Trey owned that apartment, he was a doctor from a rich family, Trey promised it Charlotte verbally when they ended their marriage, his mum Bunny tried to stop her getting it.

Eventually mummies boy Trey told his mum to quit her bitchin about Charlotte and willing give her the apartment.

I adored Bunny! I would've loved her and Trey to be in it longer.

I never liked Aiden or boring Berger. Loved Big and that young bloke she was shagging who smoked pot with her. Love SJP, didn't like Carrie too much.

I hated the ending and would've preferred her to be happy on her own.

There were so many good storylines in it. I read recently that Kim fell out with SJP big time and that's why the breast cancer storyline came into it

Carrie's was rent controlled until towards the end of the relationship with Aiden. He agrees to buy it and next door's and break the wall down to get a bigger space. When they split up he gives her a month to either buy it alone or find somewhere else.

Hence the huge whining and self pity feast. She refuses the money from Big but is quite happy to pressure Charlotte into giving her her engagement ring. Because of course Carrie was all noble and returned hers.

The reason i asked is the episode she where she tells bunny 'i am worth a million' (Dollars not pounds duh!) one thing i always wondered.

Carrie's apartment is rent controlled, yes. Her finances still don't really make much sense, the same argument has been made about the apartments lived in by the characters in Friends too. However it's a make believe world in many more ways than just paying the rent so I never really let that get in the way of the story.

I enjoyed the show as it was so different from anything else on at the time. I preferred Miranda (my fav by miles) and found Samantha funny (some of her one liners are fabulous, great writing) and powerful. Carrie was ok but saw her more as a plot device as narrator, I never really felt for her. And Charlotte was wet and annoying for quite a while, but got better once they introduced the Harry character. I liked their interactions, it was like having a group of slightly weird but fun people to hang out with now and again when you wanted to escape your own real life. And NYC always looks amazing, no matter what.

Oh, I hated that "I'm worth a million" thing. So entitled! It was when Charlotte was negotiating the pre-nuptial agreement with Trey's family. Why should she have got a million quid from them just for turning up to the wedding? I wanted Bunny to chuck her out of the window on to Park Avenue!!

a million dollars isn't really worth that much in NYC and certainly not in the circles they travelled.

Has Miranda been in anything since?

Surely both Berger and Aiden were emotionally abusive- Berger dreadful - potential to get far worse I reckon- but Aiden wanted to change her and was controlling.
Miranda best by far. Would like to be a little more like her and a lot less like Carrie!