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AIBU?

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To be pissed of with the school re vaccination reaction

159 replies

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 18:55

When DD had her 2nd HPV vaccination last year she suffered a weird reaction to it (she is not a drama lama) she does have an allergy to something we have as yet been unable to identify - GP can't do an allergy test unless we know roughly what group of things it might be we thought it was coconut (gets a weird rash all over her face) but she has random reactions to random things and getting her to keep a food diary/diary of products she has used is very difficult she is also asthmatic.

School aware of all the above. With the HPV vaccination I was a bit pissed off that I wasn't informed about the reaction as it took her over an hour to feel ok and go back to class. I think I emailed but had no response then got caught up with life and didn't follow up.

Fast forward today she has had her yr 10 boosters. I filled out the form clearly stating about what happened last time and giving my mobile number asking to be contacted if there was any issue.

Yet again she comes home and tells me the nurse saw her go pale after the jab and she went faint and nauseous and was kept in the medical room for 1 hour.

AIBU to feel the school should have phoned me or emailed me to tell me about this? Getting info from DD was like getting blood from a stone and I would like some reassurance that all is ok? She does not have a needle phobia this is clearly a physical reaction to something in the vaccination.

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SuburbanRhonda · 05/03/2014 22:52

In your OP you said you asked to be informed if there was any issue, not if she had a reaction.

Your DD told you about the reaction (which you have been told is a normal one) and she is fine, so, as a squillion PPs have said, what exactly is the problem?

Casmama · 05/03/2014 22:55

FFS OP! Why did you start this thread- to get other people to froth with you?

Sounds like even your dd wants you to unclench.

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 22:58

The problem is I am worried about my daughters unexplained allergies. Issue/reaction is the same thing - it did not pass without incident did it?

I want all the pieces of evidence I can get to get her a picture of what is going on for her right now. I love my daughter and I want to get to the bottom of this - if this make me UR that fine I can live with that as long as my daughter doesn't have a massive reaction which kills her.

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:01

The diary is very difficult.

I have a great relationship with DD - she was pissy with both her brothers over dinner and has PMT and mentioned it then hence the shit conversation.

She keeps it then goes to her dads who refuses to cooperate saying that the stress of his relationship with me causes the rash she gets every time she goes there.

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SuburbanRhonda · 05/03/2014 23:02

Saying "Ouch!" when you are injected is a reaction - not an issue.

Not the same thing at all.

Pooka · 05/03/2014 23:06

Fwiw I always react to injections whereas find blood donation, blood tests etc a breeze. By react, I mean feel a bit shaky and feeble. Not an allergic reaction to the vaccination, but a body response to the injection. Not so much with the dentist now I think about it.

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:06

She didn't say ouch.

The nurse told her she had gone white after the vaccination went in and made her put her head between her legs and then she had to lay down because she thought she was going to be sick.

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Pooka · 05/03/2014 23:07

I used to wonder whether it was a bodily response to something being injected into me, rather than taken.

SuburbanRhonda · 05/03/2014 23:11

Jesus, OP, I made the "Ouch" comment because you said a reaction was the same thing as an issue and I said it isn't and gave an example.

You are just not listening to what people are saying on this thread, are you? No wonder your DD didn't want to discuss it with you.

(Btw - how do you know she didn't say "Ouch"? You weren't there Grin )

Martorana · 05/03/2014 23:11

"Life threatening allergy"?

Has she been anaphylactic in the past? All you mentioned was blotches on her face, IiRC.

kilmuir · 05/03/2014 23:17

Get a grip, she felt nauseous and went pale. That was injection surely, not vaccine as hardly had time to get in system!
What year 10 booster is it?

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:17

Jesus - I cannot believe I am getting vilified on a parenting forum for a genuine concern out of love and care for my DD.

She is an August baby. So a young yr 10.

Does a paper round on her bike every morning in the pissing rain - so I am not over protective.

We have a lovely lovely relationship and we are friends she just doesn't realise how serious my concerns are regarding her allergic reactions and her asthma - because I do not want to make her totally paranoid.

She has had asthma since she was 5 and she has always been in control of her own inhalers.

People say IABU but giving me no evidence the people saying I am not have given me evidence.

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Martorana · 05/03/2014 23:24

Can you explain why you think her allergies might be life threatening? Because I don't think that's a usual response to having a child who has skin reactions - my dd reacts to some shampoos (her skin goes red and itchy- very horrible for about 1O minutes) but I don't go from that to worrying about her being anaphylactic to something else.....

SuburbanRhonda · 05/03/2014 23:25

OP, this thread is nothing to do with how much you love and care for your DD. It is about you being "pissed off" with her school. So says your OP title.

If you had posted on a more appropriate board about her health issues and were asking for advice about that, I would agree that was your prime motivation. But you have banged on for 4 pages about how feeling faint and nauseous is indicative of a life-threatening allergy, when HCPs who administer vaccinations themselves have told you that this is a perfectly normal reaction. The same thing happened to my DD when she had her ears pierced, ffs!

Just admit you don't want to listen to any dissent and we will all go away and leave you to it.

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 23:27

OP YABVVVVVU.

Or perhaps you want to hear 'YADNBU'

You drip-feed, you clearly helicopter parent...your poor DD

TiredNursey · 05/03/2014 23:27

Crikey . Loads of misinformation on this thread.
No Op yanbu

in my Trust, when we do flu vaccination anyone who has had any sort if reaction in the past is advised to go to Occ health dept to gave it done.

I do anaphylaxis training according to Resuscitation Council (UK) guidelines.
Feeling faint, nauseous, fainting are all signs of anaphylaxis.
Some people only have airway symptoms, some people only breathing symptoms, some only drop bp and faint. Some people have a combination of all or some of the symptoms.
About 20% of patients do not get a rash.

It seems like the Op's dd was lucky and the faint was just a faint.
But OP specifically asked to be informed if anything happened and this was not done. As a health care professional and with the dd history it is completely reasonable to expect to be informed, even if it was only a minor event.

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 23:28

I genuinely love and care for my 4DCs and would never behave like this!

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 23:30

Feeling faint, nauseous, fainting are all signs of anaphylaxis

They are also fairly standard, mild vasovagal response to vaccinations!

Speaking as a clinician and given the info you have provided, the HCPs dealt with your daughter appropriately.

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:31

Yes clearly a helicopter parent Hmm I work full time she works, goes to gym does D of E, volunteers, etc but also loves to spend time with me.

I just want to know after her lip swelling and the facial rashes and the vaccination reactions she is likely to have an anaphylactic reaction if so it would be good to have an epi pen.

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:33

Behave like what?

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DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 23:35

What vaccination reactions?
Feeling faint?

Epi-pen! What for?

Are you seeing an immunologist? Have you done a full exclusion and reintroduction diet? What are her timings, symptoms, severity in term of what you perceive as being an allergic response?

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 23:38

Behave the way you that you seem to portray which is as an OTT indiviudal who doesn't listen to reason.

Why don't you trust the nurses who were there with your daughter?

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:38

Why are you so aggressive?

I am not abusing my child I am expressing concern.

I guess I wanted advice but I came to the wrong place.

I am worried, there is something wrong, I have no one to discuss this with.

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TiredNursey · 05/03/2014 23:39

Speaking as a clinician and given the info you have provided, the HCPs dealt with your daughter appropriately"

yes but that isn't the issue. the op asked to be informed of there were any issues.
This wasn't done.

Op. your DD won't be given an epi pen without proper testing. If its warranted, your GP should refer to allergy clinic.

Weathergames · 05/03/2014 23:40

I don't trust the nurses because in the form I was specifically asked to fill in I expressed what I wanted to be informed of and they didn't do that?

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