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AIBU?

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To be pissed of with the school re vaccination reaction

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 18:55

When DD had her 2nd HPV vaccination last year she suffered a weird reaction to it (she is not a drama lama) she does have an allergy to something we have as yet been unable to identify - GP can't do an allergy test unless we know roughly what group of things it might be we thought it was coconut (gets a weird rash all over her face) but she has random reactions to random things and getting her to keep a food diary/diary of products she has used is very difficult she is also asthmatic.

School aware of all the above. With the HPV vaccination I was a bit pissed off that I wasn't informed about the reaction as it took her over an hour to feel ok and go back to class. I think I emailed but had no response then got caught up with life and didn't follow up.

Fast forward today she has had her yr 10 boosters. I filled out the form clearly stating about what happened last time and giving my mobile number asking to be contacted if there was any issue.

Yet again she comes home and tells me the nurse saw her go pale after the jab and she went faint and nauseous and was kept in the medical room for 1 hour.

AIBU to feel the school should have phoned me or emailed me to tell me about this? Getting info from DD was like getting blood from a stone and I would like some reassurance that all is ok? She does not have a needle phobia this is clearly a physical reaction to something in the vaccination.

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YouTheCat · 05/03/2014 20:23

Have you any idea how much admin/emails etc a school gets a day?

If you have such a problem with the school why not change it?

ikeaismylocal · 05/03/2014 20:24

Could you not say to your dd

"did the vaccination go ok?"
Dd- "I felt a bit sick and light headed just after it but I felt better after a while so I went back to class"

It is not the school's problem if you your dd are reluctant to communicate simple things between each other. The school would only be relaying the information that your dd had given them regarding how she felt, it seems like a daft game of Chinese whispers if the school was to tell you how your dd ( who yiu live with) felt when you could just talk to each other.

balia · 05/03/2014 20:28

Wondering if the DD's reticence has something to do with her mum kicking up a great big fuss not wanting to upset her mum?

You've had some health scares, you're a bit overprotective, she's fine. It's bloody scary being a parent. Have a

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 20:30

OFGS OP.
How many people think YABU and you still keep coming back.

Your DD is fine - she had a similar to reaction to many other people, after having a small metal needle jabbed into their vein.

Let's face it - jabs aren't nice, but she's fine.

Why are you trying to make such a fuss over this and should the school really have to phone every mother, just to say 'sally is fine, don't worry'!

Yes, they have nothing better to do of course.

Regardless, the HCPs dealing with her are in a much better position to judge this than you!

redspottydress · 05/03/2014 20:33

I don't think YABU. A lone voice I know.

insanityscatching · 05/03/2014 20:34

Ds had his immunisations in hospital because of anaphylaxis previously (not to an immunisation) I'm pretty sure had there been any concerns regarding your dd and immunisation alternative arrangements would have been made as they were for ds. You made them aware of previous reactions and they made their own judgement.
I would say if you really are so anxious about dd's allergies then you need to be more insistent on her keeping detailed food diaries so that the particular allergens can be identified tbh

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2014 20:38

Anyway, if you are that concerned, why didn't you make an appointment for her with your own surgery to have it done there?

Edenviolet · 05/03/2014 20:39

YANBU

Your dd has had reactions previously to a vaccine and also other as yet unidentified foods. It may not be an anaphylactic reaction but a reaction nevertheless.

I think as you asked the school to inform you of any symptoms after the booster and they didn't you are not BU to be annoyed.

Sunnysummer · 05/03/2014 21:17

Pale and faint is not an allergic reaction, though it must not have been very nice for her at the time.

If she does have bad enough allergic reactions to warrant this type of concern, then it really isn't that tricky to do a food diary for a couple of weeks, it's a bit annoying but really not that hard. Maybe even include soaps/cosmetics if the rash shows up on her face? They can always test her, but as an earlier poster mentioned you do risk false positives, and limiting things unnecessarily.

MaureenMLove · 05/03/2014 21:22

I work closely with the HCP that give the injections at my school and tbh, I do read all the forms that come back and make notes if necessary about any forms that have special requests on them.

If I had seen a note like yours, I would have flagged it up, BUT you said in your OP that you wanted to be contacted if there was any issue. As the HCP did not consider it to be an issue, I wouldn't have called you.

saintlyjimjams · 05/03/2014 21:22

YANBU - they should have informed you as you had specifically requested this

I wouldn't let her be vaccinated in school again - go to the GP's for any further vaccinations.

Writerwannabe83 · 05/03/2014 21:29

I think you are over reacting.

So your daughter felt sick and went pale - hardly a medical emergency.

As a lot of others said, she did not have a reaction to the jab and I'm sure the school nurse has enough experience to know when a parent needs to be contacted and when they don't.

Your daughter was clearly fine so what exactly is the problem??

Unless you specified that you wanted to be contacted for any minor problem then YABU. What would you have done anyway if they'd phoned you to say she'd gone pale?? Were you planning on leaving work to be with her??

Your daughter is more than capable at her age of letting you know how it went, which she did, so I don't understand why you are making such a drama of it....

KateMoose · 05/03/2014 21:37

I haven't read the whole thread, but she could have an egg white allergy. Maybe your GP could check for that?

Onsera3 · 05/03/2014 22:02

Oh my goodness what a lot of under informed know it alls! Shocking to see how many of you are chiming in that feeling faint is not an allergic reaction when it can be one of the signs of a serious reaction.

www.patient.co.uk/health/anaphylaxis-leaflet

www.allergyuk.org/downloads/childrens-allergy-and-anaphylaxis-protocolv3.pdf

www.nhs.uk/conditions/anaphylaxis/Pages/Introduction.aspx

So no OP YANBU. Your potentially has an allergy to some unknown thing. She has asthma which the allergy specialists told us means someone is at greater risk of suffering anaphylaxis. And she felt faint and you'd asked to be informed. I'd be very annoyed.

Sidge · 05/03/2014 22:06

Feeling faint is not, on it's own, a sign of anaphylaxis.

Credit those of us that vaccinate teenagers with understanding and being able to recognise the difference between mild vasovagal symptoms and a serious reaction.

Edenviolet · 05/03/2014 22:11

I think the issue here is not was it/wasn't it a true allergic reaction.

OPs dd had symptoms after the first vaccination and OP had requested that the school make her aware of any problems after the booster-they didn't.

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 22:13

Thanks for the NHS link she has had one of those symptoms individually with each reaction meaning at some time she has had all of them.

Which I told the school.

I will take her back to the GP.

Feel a bit that there are uninformed people vaccinating children in school who are too busy to be bothered to inform me that my child may be displaying symptoms of a life threatening allergy.

I don't care about the chaos - I care about my child.

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saintlyjimjams · 05/03/2014 22:16

Honestly refuse to have her vaccinated in school. I'd never let my children be vaccinated in school.

Hope you find out what's causing her weird reactions to things soon.

MrsMot · 05/03/2014 22:18

YANBU and some of the aggressive responses you've had have been very odd and curiously defensive but hey they all know better...

Maybe I'm lucky in that both the older dcs' schools are very good at having a relationship with parents if their medical needs - including those under investigation - warrant it.

Your dd has had some odd reactions, certainly I know that my dcs' large state schools would still have called had I flagged up a possible problem in a similar way.

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 22:19

DS1 has a needle phobia (major panic attacks) so I took him to the GP to save the embarrassment - wish I had done the same with DD.

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SuburbanRhonda · 05/03/2014 22:26

I think you should in future, OP - the fact that you expect the HCPs at school to read your mind is unrealistic

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 22:37

I expected them to read the info on the form they expected me to fill in?

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zebbidy · 05/03/2014 22:44

I agree with you OP. she is still a child and in their care when in School, a quick call from the receptionist at least to let you know she had been feeling unwell so you could keep an eye on her wouldn't have been so hard for them surely. If you have to give your permission for her to have the injection you should be informed of her well being after it.

SuburbanRhonda · 05/03/2014 22:47

If you read 95% of the responses on here, you'll know that the circumstances in which you asked to be informed did not occur.

Your DD is old enough to tell you she felt faint afterwards - what more could they tell you that she couldn't?

I think you've already made your mind up that they are falling short of your expectations, so I completely agree that you should have future vaccinations done at the GP - better all round for everyone, especially the school.

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Weathergames · 05/03/2014 22:49

I asked to be informed if she had a reaction.

She had a reaction and they didn't inform me.

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