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Unusual male culture in local upmarket restaurant

149 replies

Rowena23 · 03/03/2014 10:05

A couple enter a restaurant. As they walk past the bar on the way to the restaurant area, three men at the bar begin to talk about the woman's perfume, speculating on what brand it is.

A waiter seats the the couple at a table. Almost immediately, one of the three men goes up to the woman, and asks her about her perfume. She answers and the man slips away. When the waiter next appears at the table, the woman, still baffled (to say the least) asks him who the man is. He replies that the man is not a member of staff, but a regular customer.

It turns out that the manager of the restaurant was one of the three men speculating about the woman's perfume.

As a witness to this event, what should I have done? Should my reaction be coloured by the knowledge that the daughter of a friend had found it extremely difficult to get rid of this man some years ago, to the extent that she had to threaten to go to the police?

OP posts:
SouthernComforts · 03/03/2014 11:31

Professionally Offended by Rowena.

SaucyJack · 03/03/2014 11:32

Precious Young Lady....... By Sinead O'Connor.

WorraLiberty · 03/03/2014 11:33

They were invading the woman's space. I bet they do it often. Sort of like a 'game' they were playing because they have nothing better to do than hang around the bar cadging free drinks and generally being a pain in the neck to all concerned.

'Invading the woman's space'

'Playing games'

'Cadging free drinks'

Sorry, have I missed an update from the OP?

This thread is now officially more bonkers than it was to begin with.

WorraLiberty · 03/03/2014 11:34

'Inserting himself between them'

I love this thread Grin

WorraLiberty · 03/03/2014 11:35

Making shit up - by Mumsnet Grin

MarmaladeShatkins · 03/03/2014 11:36

Grin Worra

Laquitar · 03/03/2014 11:42

Well there are certain Cafes like what More Beta said. I used to work in Bayswater and i was going every evening to buy that kebab-what is called? the arabic one.
I believe it.
But it was for the woman and her man to be or not to bEoffended. I wouldn't find it weird if they did.
But a third person?

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 03/03/2014 11:46

He obviously should have gone up to perfume woman's male partner and asked HIM what perfume she was wearing. Strange men, talking to women, shocking. (Notice the restrained lack of exclamation mark)

MorrisZapp · 03/03/2014 11:48

Love the parish newsletter style thread title. Reminds me of how the Aberdeen Press and Journal reported the sinking of the Titanic:

'North East man drowns at sea'

(Probably untrue but I still love it)

LessMissAbs · 03/03/2014 11:53

The phrase "What do you want to know that for?" repeated, is made for this. Creeps get phased out by it, normal just slink away.

It would be my suspicion that the restaurant owner and his friends hang around the restaurant to eye up women and get a thrill out of asking them slightly personal questions in a setting where they are forced to answer out of courtesy.

I would be suspicious that he has an odd attitude towards women and not surprised to learn that he has a history of doing slightly unsettling things with regards to them, such as following them.

Neurotic - no, not unless it unreasonably affects my own behaviour. There are plenty of creeps about. Statistically there is an stable element of psychological disorders in humans, and social mores tends to hold them back from committing crime unless certain trigger factors are pressed - this is pretty standard criminological theory.

What would I do? Not use the restaurant again, but being me, if I hadn't questioned the man as to why he was asking me stupid questions (he doesn't need to know what perfume I'm wearing when I'm on a romantic date with another man, its invasive) then I might have phoned up the restaurant specially to say why. I'm nasty like that.

VeggySausage · 03/03/2014 11:58

I love it too, it proves everything I already believe about most of the population.

VeggySausage · 03/03/2014 11:59

Or ohwhatfuckery not asked at all? Would you really go up to a couple sitting down to a meal to question the bloke on his cologne? Confused

thinking101 · 03/03/2014 12:01

Unusual male culture too....

Asking about a perfume and three men chatting = unsual male culture.

If this isnt s joke thread (I'm really not sure forgive me) then the OP needs to address her issues with the 'creepy' man re her friends DD.

Stinklebell · 03/03/2014 12:01

Blimey, I've approached strangers and asked where they got their top/aftershave/perfume/shoes from because I like whatever it is.

MarmaladeShatkins · 03/03/2014 12:09

Then you are a social pariah, Stinklebell. Wink

TheToysAreALIVEITellThee · 03/03/2014 12:15

How dare a group of men talk about perfume.

Shouldn't they be comparing spanners and nails and other symbols of manliness like that?

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 03/03/2014 12:27

Veggie my tongue was firmly in my cheek there.

AreYouBlueOrAreYouBlind · 03/03/2014 13:01

WhoULukinAT? by Kerry Katona

AnyFuckerHQ · 03/03/2014 13:03

where these "unusual males" forriners ? < sharp intake of breath >

this is nothing, OP

my dd used to work at a restaurant, y'know when of them forrin ones... where they were openly dealing drugs in the back room

beat that

AnyFuckerHQ · 03/03/2014 13:04

were

MarmaladeShatkins · 03/03/2014 13:05

You working for HQ now, AF? Shock

thinking101 · 03/03/2014 13:09

it is where

Pollyputthekettle · 03/03/2014 13:14
Confused

Er, you don't need to anything. Unless I have missed something.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 03/03/2014 13:18

I suspect we have all missed the point of the OP. polly

I thought that as soon as i read "I was a witness to the event", I had to scroll back and try and work out what the "event" was.
I still do not know.

AnyFuckerHQ · 03/03/2014 13:19

Yeah, marm, I'm on a special secret mission Wink

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