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Maintenance and OH ex...

176 replies

Weathergames · 20/02/2014 20:46

Have NC as this may out me.

Been with OH 4/5 yrs we both have DC. None together. OH in forces when not away we have his DC every other weekend (unless his ex arranges other things to do with DC Hmm another thread).

He pays what I consider generous maintenance (more than my ex pays for my two) and drives over 1000 mile round trip every time we have his DC (he is based at opposite end of country to where his ex moved when she left him). Costing us prob £400 a month.

We also buy shoes, uniform, other things when we see they need them and he's paid for swimming lessons, school trips etc.

Ex will also get 1/2 his payout when he leaves forces (they were married 3 yrs he has been in 25).

She has asked for more maintenance (she gets £350 a month, works and receives housing benefit, tax credits). OH cannot afford to pay more as he contributes to our home here (where he brings his DC) pays for petrol, and for his room on base.

If she goes to the CSA he will prob have to pay more as petrol and other thinfs mentioned above are not taken into consideration.

I have said to him maybe offer £400 and appeal to the better side of her nature and explain about the petrol etc taking a softly softly approach. I am pretty sure she wants £500. I have said to contribute less here to afford it.

He says that won't work (they are both incredibly stubborn hence the divorce) she is to be fair quite materialistic and terrible with money (and the kids are always in falling apart clothes while she often wears labels - not that it is any of our business what she spends her money on) and has gone ballistic says he is going to dig his heels in and refuse to have the kids more than once a month and generally dick her around (trying to get through to him you will also be dicking your kids around :( ).

I am hoping it is his rage talking as I can only see the kids losing here (on what is atm a very stable happy arrangement for them). Please can someone suggest how I might support/advise him so we can compromise without him walking away from his DC or his DC being placed in the middle of a battle zone.

TIA.

OP posts:
Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:10

katenbocken what is your problem?

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PikaAchooo · 20/02/2014 21:10

How old are they OP?

Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:11

6 & 8 - too young to get the train!

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PikaAchooo · 20/02/2014 21:12

Seriously what is with the shitty messages?

I'm a single parent who get's zero maintenance from my ExH and never have. I would never condone a man not paying maintenance however the OP is looking for some practical advice.

Not some crappy attitude from people who have nothing of value to add.

KarenBrockman · 20/02/2014 21:13

You are very focused on what he is spending on the ex and the children. Can we have a breakdown on what he spends on YOU? How much did he spend for example on you for Valentine's day, Christmas, nights out, your last birthday, your last mini break/holiday?

PikaAchooo · 20/02/2014 21:13

Yeah that was what I was thinking.

It's definitely a hard situation to solve. What is the potential outcome if your partner says he cannot afford to pay what she is asking?

Perfectlypurple · 20/02/2014 21:14

Where does it say he is entertaining the op??? He is in debt because he is paying a lot in maintenance and petrol along with all the other costs associated with his children.

Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:14

If its anyone's business I work full time was/am still effectively a single parent and I own this house independently of anyone else! :)

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deadduck · 20/02/2014 21:15

KarenBrockman, you're weird.

PikaAchooo · 20/02/2014 21:15

Would it make a difference if his ex brought them halfway on the train every second visit? Would she be in a position to do this?

KarenBrockman · 20/02/2014 21:15

No, he is in debt as he is not managing his outgoings very well, and they are blaming the ex for this and not looking at where the rest of his money is going each month.

littleblackno · 20/02/2014 21:15

I agree with others, you an have a contact order in place with forces - my exh is forces (not army) and although we don't have a co it was discussed, I also know others who have a co in place in forces. It may not be a regular agreement but will state something about the amount of time he has with dc when he is uk based.

I was also told I would not be entitled to half his payout when he leaves the forces as it's based on how long he's in and how long we were together - obviously there are many other variables in each couple which may affect what his arrangement is.. I think his ex must have had a great solicitor and he must have had a crap one. Maybe you should look at getting some other advice.

Perfectlypurple · 20/02/2014 21:16

karenbrockman you are very focused on what you imagine he is spending on the op and ignoring it is costing him £750 without extras!

Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:16

I don't think she would do this - I am pretty sure she wouldn't.

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foslady · 20/02/2014 21:16

So his contribution works out at £11.54/day for 2 children.

How generous.

Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:18

Maybe I might suggest he looks into a contact order when he's not at sea - she said he couldn't have one because he couldn't uphold it Hmm.

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foslady · 20/02/2014 21:18

Would the train be cheaper?

PikaAchooo · 20/02/2014 21:19

What about attending mediation? I think it would be advisable to try and get some kind of contact agreement in place. I'm sure there are ways of getting something to secure your partners visitation.

Karen - Are you just concocting your own story in your head?

Sidge · 20/02/2014 21:19

My exH is Navy and we have a consent order. His solicitor is not terribly well informed by the sound of it.

needaholidaynow · 20/02/2014 21:19

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Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:20

foslady it's a bit more complicated than that isn't it - my ex gives me £5 a day but that's irrelevant it's what he can afford.

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JackNoneReacher · 20/02/2014 21:20

I have rarely read a more reasonable OP

KarenBrockman Biscuit why don't you fuck off.

PikaAchooo · 20/02/2014 21:21

I'm pretty sure you can get some kind of contact order even if you are in the forces but not 100% sure. Have a look online and see if you can find anything out.

Weathergames · 20/02/2014 21:21

Also - I am not linking maintenance and contact before anyone accuses me.

I think mediation would be good although he is quite crap at being diplomatic ....

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Pumpkinpositive · 20/02/2014 21:23

KarenBrockman are you the OP's husband's ex wife?? Grin