to think if you live in surrey sussex kent, home counties i spose and you work in the city

[LucyLasticBand]

you shouldnt complain about the trains!
you want the best of both worlds.

I luffs Katie, especially the way her eyes bulge out of her head, the more faux controversy she spouts.

Me too. She's very funny on twitter.

What a pathetic thing to say. My DP pays thousands of pounds to commute and like others have said he can't even get a seat on the train/tube. He faces delays EVERY single day due to a train fault or similar which means he usually isn't home until 8pm. We do live in Surrey, but the reason we ended up here is because of the extortionate house prices in London. I think you live in some sort of deluded world!!

OP I'm an incomer. We used to live in London but moved out when we wanted to start a family. We wanted access to better schools, countryside and a nice big garden. My DH still commutes because he wouldn't have found an equivalent job where we are. I work locally and my children go to local schools. We spend our money locally, support independent shops and I am a very active fundraiser for both my childrens' schools. In short we contribute to our adopted community.

My DH does complain about the trains because he spends thousands a year to get to work and the service is appalling. If he gets delayed by an hour or more on the way home (which he frequently does) he misses seeing his younger children that day because they are in bed. That is not a situation he should just be expected to accept without complaint.

I'm not sure where I stand on your hate-o-meter because your arguments are so woolly and badly thought out, but maybe you should think about the real families at the receiving end of your ravings. We are not just a homogenous group of leeches and moaners as you seem to imply.

The trouble is with opinions is 'they're like arseholes, every bugger has one' regardless of whether they are well thought out and reasonable.

Not sure how my family fit in, I moved from Dorset to London, then to Surrey, now Hampshire. Both DH and I commuted to London for a while, now only he does. He moans about the trains quite frequently. We rent our house, where do we fit in your 'opinion'?

Over 200 posts and it's still incompreh ensible in terms of the OP's attempts to construct an argument.

I think I sort of know what you mean a little bit OP.

Do you mean that you can't move to somewhere green and lovely with a commute and complain about the commute and stop other houses being built on the green loveliness?

I slightly agree with you regarding the green. If you have children, plan on living over eighty etcetera than you are contributing to the shortage of housing and so shouldn't be too crazily reactionary about new developments - is this what you meant by out at 90?

The thing is with commutes - they are unpleasant and crazily expensive. If you pay a lot for a service and it is not how you want than you should use your power as a consumer to try and change it.

Villagers are free to sell their houses or not. If they sell them they can choose to sell them to whomever they choose, they don't have to sell to the highest price. But if they do sell to someone from London that person does not lose their right to complain about shitty train services.

Am I allowed to moan about the trains as I live where I was born but have to commute as I can't get a job here?? Not everyone who lives in the Home Counties was born somewhere else you know. And no I don't earn enough to move to london!

I DON'T UNDERSTAND! (wail)

please please OP I want to understand but I am completely mystified.

Who are you cross with, what have they done wrong and what do you want them to do instead?

Or have I got the wrong end of the logjam?