to think if you live in surrey sussex kent, home counties i spose and you work in the city

[LucyLasticBand]

you shouldnt complain about the trains!
you want the best of both worlds.

sorry finola, hope you feel better soon.

i didnt think i was on the wind up.
i guess i was a little outspoken.

OP: talks shit

Vipers: Op you're talking shit

OP: talks more shit

Vipers: what are you talking about?

OP: you're bullying me

Vipers: eh?

I commute via train some of the time in Glasgow - it's cheap, reliable and as I work only school hours, usually I get a seat. I think I'd complain if I had to put up with what is common on trains in the South East.

OP certainly seems to be having a bad day, though!

you havent changed my mind, though

Teacher???? Gawd help us if you are....

Chippednailvarnish

With regards to my half term comment, I'm the teacher. I was wondering if Lucy's account had been hacked by a naughty schoolboy. Or girl.

I think a schoolchild would find a much more interesting subject matter to "discuss".

is it really because
i am wrong
or
i am old

or i am outspoken
and no one dares agree with me

or everyone else thinks your option is very shortsighted and that you seem unwilling to listen or enter into any debate ?

It's not that we don't dare agree with you. It's that we don't agree with you.

I used to feel similar hatred angst towards the feckers who insisted on buying the big fuck off houses overlooking fields and a golf course across the road from them (no houses) and next door to a large teaching hospital. Then they would complain and campaign bitterly for double yellow lines opposite so no-one would park and obliterate their view. Hospital staff who cant get in the hospital car park have always parked along this road and the hospital has been there for about a hundred years.

Grrrr - OP I feel your pain - they knew the score when they moved in just like your commuters.

OP, what is wrong with complaining about poor service? Do you always accept poor service without complaint? Disclaimer - I am not a commuter but don't see the problem with anyone complaining about poor service! But then I only live in hampshire, which wasn't on your list! ;)

I'm still not certain about what it is I would be agreeing with!

Oh chipped I do hope you are right.

Lucy, you are entitled to your opinion. When you state your opinion on a public forum, others are entitled to agree or disagree. You have had a resounding YABU. That does not mean that you have to change your opinion. It simply means that you are in the minority. So, others are not afraid to agree with you. Other posters simply see the flaws in your argument.

Isn't it half term this week?

I think OP thinks "outspoken" means "i shout loudest because I know I am right and you are all afraid to call a spade a spade"

Maybe you are outspoken, though I don't think any of us are really sure about what.

I think... Op is saying she doesn't want "incomers" spoiling her home town, pushing up prices, etc. And 'they' should ideally all move back/be contained in London. If people must move out of the overcrowded London slums that Op is proposing, then they should not complain about the commute. Or summat...

's it really because
i am wrong
or
i am old

or i am outspoken
and no one dares agree with me'

It's because you are wrong.
If I pay for a service, I expect it to be as written. I don't understand why that is a problem. If I pay for a ticket, I expect the train to run as timetabled, unless there is a sudden, unforseeable problem.
This is why travelling on the trains was always a disaster when I was with my grandfather, he was used to Edwardian and pre-war services and would never plan for delays or cancellations.
I am old, and by the gods, I truly miss British Rail.

i am outspoken and no one dares agree with me

You are Katie Hopkins and I claim my £5.

But everyone who ever moves anywhere ever is an incomer.

By that logic, everyone should stay in the village they were born in, regardless of whether there's a job for them, and marry someone within easy walking distance, and keep a careful record of who's related to who, in order to avoid everyone finishing up as their own grandfathers.

toby that really was uncalled for.

What has poor Katie "rent a gobshite" Hopkins ever done to you?

in order to avoid everyone finishing up as their own grandfathers

I think it may have already been suggested that this could be the root of all OP's problems :)

Obviously I should leave Surrey out as that is obvious commuter land

Erm... no it isn't exclusively commuter land.

Out of mine and dh's extensive circle of both friends and family that live here in Surrey NOT ONE of us commutes into London.

And we don't complain about the trains. But if I received shocking service I would.

:o chipped. You're right. Katie is more articulate.