to think if you live in surrey sussex kent, home counties i spose and you work in the city

[LucyLasticBand]

you shouldnt complain about the trains!
you want the best of both worlds.

It's hard to shout down someone who has put a coherent thought on the screen yet.

Doctor, I think Essex commuters are allowed to complain because its not quite as nice as Surrey.

*hasn't

Alright leave Surrey out of this!
I was born and raised in sometimes sunny Surrey.
Op as you say we are all allowed an opinion (even if it is the ramblings of a mad person )

If I pay for a service, I expect it to be provided.
Why is that difficult to understand?
You may as well say that people who choose to live in isolated places don't deserve an NHS, or a decent school system.

Soooo you've been priced out of living in a commuter town, and feeling a bit cross. Especially when those rich-and smug, oh yes - the very same who have priced you out of your desired area have the nerve to complain if their trains don't run on time! What a nerve!

Got there in the end.

Yabu. They pay a lot of money for a service they have the right to expect. They are entitled to complain if they don't get that service.

it has changed in that village with all the commuters and incomers -

Exactly Golden, the OP has yet to put a coherent thought or argument down. It's just a load of disjointed sentences designed to rile people and cause pages and pages of nonsense.

I have a theory that there is nowhere in mainland Europe that has so many people commuting into its capital city for work, and with such a crazy disparity of where work/population in concentrated and house prices that lead to the overburdening of trains into the capital.

Across a lot of Europe people still live relatively close to where they work - and they can afford to!!!

The high prices on rail/transport services are a. a form of rationing b. a way of paying for wear and tear/upgrades necessary because they are being pushed beyond the limit of what they were designed for - and there is not enough slack in the system to close existing systems and build/upgrade where it's necessary.

And the road system into the capital is a disaster too - hence the congestion charge, and trying to "encourage" people onto public transport.

It is very crazy.

In all seriousness, work should be shared more evenly throughout the country.

Instead, I think the high speed train links that are being planned are only going to serve to turn locations that are stupid distances from London into supposed commuter areas.

Actually the trains haven't always been this bad. Pre Beeching the train service was better and covered more towns and villages. Maintenance had been scaled back significantly over the last 50 years and we're now seeing the consequences.

If we follow the "it's always been that way" argument to it's conclusion we have even less right to complain about wars, murder, rape etc as they've been around since x BC i.e. 1000s of years before there was such a thing as train. Even before there was a London for that matter.

Ruskin - I trained to teach in Surrey (yuck!), my part of Essex is much nicer. Although, the part of Surrey I trained in is probably officially in London now - as is much of Essex - how does that affect the OPs opinion I wonder?
Anyway, DH commutes to next town by train sometimes as he got promoted. If we moved to next town, I'd have to commute here and we'd be worse off as the houses are significantly more expensive even twenty miles closer to London.
OP - where do you want all these people who work in, and around, London to live?

You get up really early in the morning, before the kids are up, you pay thousands of pounds to sit on a cramped train with some bastard sitting next to you eating a hamburger, and you go to a really shitty job but pay thousands of pounds in taxes, and you get home really, really late, because the train company decided a slow train is better, and the kids are already in bed, and you expect to complain, you bastards. How dare you?!

I wish I'd tried harder with French at school. I think it would have been nice to get part-time work and commute from Paris.

Stop using 'incomers'! You sound like a Victorian milk maiden.

if i was complaining about holiday homes i wouldn't get so much angst here i understand.
bloody bastards going on holiday

but complaining about people moving here to commute to london and i get called a troll among other things

Cat - all capital cities require a large number of commuters. My Grandfather commuted into Cophenhagen by train (30 miles) back in the 1970s. Denmark still has a more efficient train system. He also used to commute from Winterthur to Zurich.
Would the economies of the regions be better if the work was spread out? Possibly, but not necessarily. The government forced the BBC to move some of its programming to Salford for that reason. We now have people commuting from the SE to Salford rather than London.

The rail service is shite because British Rail was cut, privatised, de-subsidised, re-subsidised, split, folded, spindled and mutilated for ideological reasons. Since that ideology only got into power because of the voting/financial power of London and the Home Counties, they are getting to lie in the bed they made. No sympathy.

I am intrigued as to what job the OP was commuting to for three months...

Lucy - second home owning is different. It does more in some rural areas, eg Devon, to price locals out of the market.
Also, may I just ask again, you don't want these people in your village, where should they go?

We live in the home counties, but DH works in London, not the City. Big difference.

Kisses - not all of us in the South East vote that way. I promise!

That's right OP, keep swinging and eventually you'll hit a subject of complaint that someone will agree with you on.

And then what they do in some of these towns, near the station, is put up those petty little notices - no parking here between 10 and 11, because God forbid, a filthy commuter should be allowed to park near the station.

Still commuters must never complain because they have the life of riley.