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to think if you live in surrey sussex kent, home counties i spose and you work in the city

210 replies

LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 08:29

you shouldnt complain about the trains!
you want the best of both worlds.

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LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 10:47

drunk
no, i am always like this.

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LIZS · 18/02/2014 10:47

Great , all commuters move to London as there is known to be plenty of housing stock, school places, lack of congestion Hmm . Provincial railways no longer used therefore decline and are made obsolete.

glastocat · 18/02/2014 10:48

The op makes no sense at all, I have no idea what she is on about at all. Suspect she is drunk or on the wind up.

LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 10:49

ok, obviously not time up at 90, but it seems everybody wants their patch of green but it doesnt always work like that,

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TSSDNCOP · 18/02/2014 10:50

You want the million odd people that commute to London, to leave their home and go and live in London. So London would need to grow by an eighth to accommodate the incomers. How would that even work?

Honest question. Where do you think all these City types spend the money they make in the big London? You do realise they don't keep it in a locker at Waterloo don't you?

bigbluebus · 18/02/2014 10:50

I live a long way from London, so I'm not even going to comment on the issues of commuting. But poor train services are not exclusive to the South. Only the other day I dropped DH at a rural station. The info board said 'Train delayed' so I waited, rather than drive home and leave him stranded. After 15 minutes the board changed to 'train cancelled'. There is only one train every 2 hrs. He had to go home and miss what he was supposed to be attending. He checked the internet when he got home to find out why the train was cancelled. It said 'staff shortage'. Ok so he hadn't already paid for his ticket - but the service is unreliable - everywhere.
As for the changes in villages - I live in a village and was an 'incomer' 20 yrs ago (from another village). The village has definitely changed over that time. Lots of new houses being built. House prices have gone up here too, so many locals cannot afford them as there is little employment around here and what there is, isn't highly paid. The rise in prices has nothing to do with 'incomers', and definitely not commuters here - it is just the economy nationwide.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 18/02/2014 10:51

You're talking about small percentages again. Most people want a roof over their head, a job and to be safe.

MothratheMighty · 18/02/2014 10:51

'Great , all commuters move to London as there is known to be plenty of housing stock, school places, lack of congestion'

Well, there would be if we only had useful worker-unit lifeforms in the capital, and shipped all the non-productive failed units Up North somewhere.

LittleBearPad · 18/02/2014 10:57

Where in London OP. It's not as if there's much space here. Do you honestly think commuters enjoy having to travel hours on shitty trains back to villages where for ten years after they move there they are referred to as incomers.

TSSDNCOP · 18/02/2014 11:02

Actually when I think again, it'd need to be accommodating more like 4 million extra people because the commuter will need to bring her/his family too.

Plenty of space in Hyde Park for 300 storey tower blocks. No need to implement George Orwell Moths plan.

PatriciaHolm · 18/02/2014 11:03

I think the OP lives in Royston Vasey…..

Finola1step · 18/02/2014 11:11

Lucy I will not bore you with my commuting details. I am not a viper. I do not earn a shed load in the city.

Like most people, I work really hard to provide for my children. I have every right to complain and be dissatisfied with an unreliable service which costs me thousands to use.

You are entitled to your opinion. But I would take you more seriously if you composed your arguments with greater care. Your spelling and punctuation need improvement and this distracts the reader from your overall message. But then it is half term...

JassyRadlett · 18/02/2014 11:13

Oh, but Lucy. You haven't thought this through very well, or actually explained it well at all apart from describing commuters as a 'bunch of nimbies' which makes no sense at all.

The problem with the trains isn't related to flooding. People are fine with things like that. The story you've seen is the Which? report on people's satisfaction with rail services - overcrowded, delayed, cancelled for often quite rubbish reasons focused on profits rather than customers. As they run local monopolies, there's little opportunity for people to go elsewhere.

People aren't complaining about the fact they have to commute. It is, as you say, part and parcel of commuting. I doubt anyone particularly enjoys it but the economic and housing profile of the South East in particular, but also around other urban centres, promotes this mode.

What people object to is the service they pay for falling far short of acceptable standards. I don't expect a seat on my train. I do expect it not to be cancelled 20% of the time (as it was during January - 'my' afternoon train is the first one South West Trains cancels if anything goes wrong. I object to not being able to get onto three trains in a row due to overcrowding. I object to it when, halfway through a journey, home, the guard suddenly announces that we will be travelling 'express' past my station.

I live where I live (London/Surrey borders - where do I fit in your book?) because I like it here. It's a nicer place to bring up my kid. I have friends and a community here, which I don't have near where I work. I commute into central London four days a week - note, not to a City job, what a boringly stereotyped idea of 'commuters'. I spend exponentially more money locally than I do in central London. I support my local independent bookshop and butcher's. I volunteer locally.

My husband commutes in the other direction - out into Hampshire. How does he fit into your ideas?

FreddieStarrAteMyHamster · 18/02/2014 11:13

Op is

LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 11:19

Your spelling and punctuation need improvement and this distracts the reader from your overall message. But then it is half term...

are you assuming I am a teacher or something?

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FreddieStarrAteMyHamster · 18/02/2014 11:19

Op I think you should campaign for your home town to draw up its own borders. Passport controlled and only issued to those with residents going back 5 generations or more and large unfathomable chips on shoulders. We could then contain the while group of you away from modern civilisation. I for one would be only too happy to chip in.

Finola1step · 18/02/2014 11:23

Oh Lucy. Thank you. I'm ill in bed, checked mn and you have just made me laugh. You are a tonic, you really are. Keep posting please.

LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 11:24

happy to oblige fiona, doubt it's me, or is this another oh so subtle bullying.

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LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 11:24

sorry finola not fiona

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JassyRadlett · 18/02/2014 11:24

Freddie, I think you've cracked something there.

OP, you may enjoy Passport to Pimlico as a good blueprint.

Finola1step · 18/02/2014 11:33

Lucy you post a thread which is met with derision. You keep on going. I attempt to give you advice and an "out" along the lines of humour and you accuse me of bullying you. If you do think that I am bullying you, then please do report my posts to MNHQ. I would be keen to see what they say on the matter.

As someone who has been bullied, I find your accusation offensive and I will fight my corner.

LucyLasticBand · 18/02/2014 11:35

so i am a tonic who you want to keep posting, really?

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Bowlersarm · 18/02/2014 11:37

are you assuming I'm a teacher

Arf Grin. Priceless, OP.

Finola1step · 18/02/2014 11:39

Lucy I am ill. You made me laugh. Maybe not intentionally but you did. So in that sense, I described you as a tonic. If you find this offensive, please do report to MNHQ.

JassyRadlett · 18/02/2014 11:41

Lucy, is there a reason you are pouncing on posters and accusing them of bullying, rather than answering some of the questions people have asked about your position on this issue?