to think if you live in surrey sussex kent, home counties i spose and you work in the city

[LucyLasticBand]

you shouldnt complain about the trains!
you want the best of both worlds.

gosh some of you are right bullies arent you

It's not at all like moving to the country and complaining about the mud...
...it's like moving to the country and complaining that you are required to pay £40 for your tesco delivery when everyone else only has to pay a fiver and then having the audacity to also complain that when it turns up that it hasn't got half of what you've paid for, despite still charging you for it all. And that's if it bothers turning up at all. How unreasonable!

Kisses I'm old enough to have commuted before privatisation. I believe it is six and two threes which offered the worst service, I speak for the Kent lines into London. No experience of others.

The trains themselves are better. The old trains almost seemed to be made entirely of cardboard. The number of trains has improved. But that causes issues as the increased number of trains still have to filter into the same number of London terminals. The infrastructure itself I think is where the real issue lies and that requires investment that the train companies don't prioritise.

I look at the Dutch and Swiss train services with envy when I use them.

OP "AIBU"
MN "Pretty much, yes"
OP "Oh you bullies"

Where's the "rolly eyes" face when you need it....

"incomers"
bloody hell- every time I need to remember why I left my rural home town for the anonymity of the big smoke someone like the Op comes and reminds me.

Here at Greater Anglia they've introduced 'new' trains. They're just the ones all the other companies didn't want any more - we're one of the few lines who still have slam doors I believe. The difference here pre and post privatisation is noticeable and not in a good way.

makes you roll your eyes does it, wow, someone gives an opinion you lot dont agree with - you dive in - then roll your eyes. nest of vipers.

I live in Berkshire and commute daily (1.5-2 hours each way) into London. I work for a charity. I can't afford to live in London and I want my DC to grow up in a house not a flat. I can't work in my field closer to home. I pay more than £4000 a year to have a truly crap service. so yes, I do complain.

not a bun fight
repeat.
not a bun fight.

When you move to the country you don't pay for mud, its free. Its not the same as paying for an expensive service that fails to deliver.

I've tried to engage you in debate over this but you haven't replied to my question. Yes, it may annoy you that the village has changed but where would you like all these people to live? Or would it be ok if they stayed in the village and didn't moan about the trains?
The ONLY reason this was in the broadcast news was that the annual passenger survey was out. They discuss it every year.

Rather be a coherent viper, than a babbling mess.

Be thankful for the incomers, I think there is a need for a new DNA pool.

Its not the difference of opinion that causes the eye rolling - opinion is what is courted on AIBU.
It's being called bullies when you give an opinion the OP doesn't agree with that causes the eye rolling.....not a hard concept to grasp.

lucy This is quite common. Rolling stock gets cascaded from London. When the Liverpool to Manchester line is electrified there will be new trains.

Except they'll be 30 year old cast offs already three quarters of their way through their lifespan.

I've got it! OP is from Royston Vasey.

Dave is that you?

Some of us don't have any other option other than to commute. I was made redundant aged 50 and could not get another job locally (all cherry picked by much younger people) but there were jobs in Central London so it was a no-brainer.
But here I am arthritic and early 60's having an 1.5 commute daily.
I get on the train each morning at 6 am, so I can get a seat, but to go home I have to stand- it ain't fun believe me!

Stop using 'incomers'! You sound like a Victorian milk maiden.
Rather be a coherent viper, than a babbling mess.

tehse

where would I like these people to live?
surrey.
or essex.
or may be i just wont listen to them complain about the trains next time they are on the news.

tehse?

actually i want them to live in london;

But then where would the people who live in London live? There isn't a ready supply of housing at a reasonable price in London. That's why people don't live there. Commuting isn't fun.

times up when you are 90, how aobut that.

It's quite early to be this drunk, isn't it?

OP, are you ok?