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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is DSC's mum?

136 replies

RougeRoyale · 12/02/2014 16:36

Name changed as the details make me identifiable in real life. Sorry it's so long but I feel the context is important as it explains why a lot of the usual solutions couldn't apply to us.

DH has four DCs who we used to have every week from 6pm Thursday through till 2pm Sunday. Last year the access changed slightly so that once a month the DCs are only with us from 6pm Thursday till 8pm Friday so that they get to spend some quality weekend time with their mum (they are still with us for all the other weekends) - this change was tentatively put forward by DH then reluctantly accepted by DC's mum a few months later. The kids on the other hand were very pleased with the new set-up.

DH and I are finding it a strain on our relationship only having two weekend days per month together. Although the kids ages range between 10-16, the two eldest are on the autistic spectrum (they attend special schools) therefore not only are they not in the usual position of being able to pull their weight with household chores such as sorting their own washing or lunches etc, they're not out and about like most other kids their age. They have a specialist babysitter who they're only comfortable with as they've know her for years, their mum often utilises her during the week but as the babysitter quite rightly has weekends off we can't use her during our time for anything but very special occasions. Come Sunday afternoon DH and I are too peopled out and knackered to do anything much together. I appreciate we get to spend Mon-Wed evenings together but we're both tired after work, have all the kids washing and food shopping to catch up on, and let's face it if weekday evenings were sufficient downtime in themselves then weekends wouldn't need to exist for anybody.

The DCs don't enjoy having the transition between houses falling in the middle of the Sunday either as they don't get to enjoy either a lazy day in their PJs nor enough time to have a proper day out with us - breakfast and lunch are crammed in close together and the DCs are rushing about getting their stuff ready to go back to mum's.

Bearing all this in mind DH has proposed to DC's mum that we still have the kids every week from Thu-Fri, but that she increases her Saturdays & Sundays with the DCs from one weekend per month to every other weekend. In return, on the weekends that the DC are with us we will now keep them from Thursday night through till the Monday morning so the number of nights we have them is actually unchanged. The DCs benefit by getting to enjoy proper leisure time with their mum as well as their dad, and Sundays will no longer be dominated by the handover.

When DH asked DC's mum if they could have a meeting as he wanted to discuss changing the access arrangements the first thing she said was "I can't do that" even before knowing what the proposal was. She then said that if he wanted to have the kids less then she would stop contact altogether, then put the phone down on him. She then texted to say we were selfish and had no right to dictate to her. She hasn't once explained why she thinks it would be bad for the kids.

DC's mum works full time and is in receipt of all of the child benefits plus full maintenance from DH with no reductions for the time he has them, because for the first year post-separation they had a "nesting" access arrangement - DH did not reduce this when he moved out. In addition to this DH pays for half the cost for uniforms, school trips etc although she could comfortably afford them without his additional contribution. I have only brought up the finances as relevant in order to be clear that we are not proposing any changes in order to reduce maintenance as ExP is already at full whack so to speak and knows she would remain so.

I can already hear the cries of "but what would you do if something happened to his ExP and you had the DCs full time?" Well for a start we would receive all of the child-related benefits (and due to DLA they are substantial in this case). We would be significantly better off and could afford to move to a bigger house so that we wouldn't all feel so on top of each other, especially as none of the kids even pop to the sweetshop let alone socialise. We would also get to use the babysitter and get our breathing space that way. DC's mum has a huge 6 bedroom house, the kids are at school for the majority of the days she has them, plus she uses the babysitter every week, so she gets a lot more personal space than we do. I am not resentful of that fact in itself, but I am resentful that it upsets DH when she still complains that she is hard done by and that he doesn't pull his weight, and ignores the fact that even with the proposed changes he is still having the DC more than most non-resident parents (incidentally DH would be happy to have 50/50 care with the benefits split equally but DC's mum doesn't want that).

AIBU to think its not normal for a mother to be fighting so hard in order not to spend more weekend time with her children? Or is she right in that DH and I are being unspeakably selfish?

OP posts:
velvetspoon · 12/02/2014 20:47

Sorry, on the side of the mum here.

I work FT, I am out of the house 12 hours a day. I have 2 secondary school age children. Neither have any form of SN, are able to be left on their own, do chores etc.

And despite this I find it incredibly hard, to the point that some weeks I am almost collapsing, either with exhaustion, or just the unending, unrelenting burden of responsibility. Of all the endless things I have to remember. Being a single parent is really bloody hard, and I have half the amount of children, without any of the additional needs that the OP's DSC do.

I think frankly you should just suck it up, rather than keep changing the arrangement to one that suits you better.

ReindeerBollocks · 12/02/2014 20:48

I don't think she's fighting not to have her children, I think that having four DC's (2 with SN) and working full time she is probably exhausted and needs the break - whether that's to bonk her boyfriend or watch breaking bad in her underwear it's really none of your business.

You have already reduced contact time and the split is 65/35. You want to reduce it further getting more time solely with your DH - hardly in the children's best interests. Or is it a financial reason? Can't tell because you are bouncing from one reason to another why your DH can't have them for his 35% of the time. I think that's unfair.

And as for counting the waking hours?! She has to get four children up and dressed for school - deal with any school incidents during the day while working, and do the usual mum stuff when she gets home. With four children I can imagine that's hard enough without dealing with the added pressure of autism in the two DC, which I presume would make her life harder not easier. It's not like she's sat on her arse expecting you to fund her!

I think you and your DH are massively unreasonable in trying to reduce the contact time you already have. Want date night - do it all the other free nights you have? Really don't get the issue and why you need more free time. They are your DH's children and he should care for them the 35% time he has pre-arranged.

It's not you I'm angry at - it's your DH and the fact that he doesn't seem very keen to spend time with his children - what's his excuse - it's not like he's exhausted from looking after his DC all week and needs a break is it?

Fairy1303 · 12/02/2014 21:03

OP, YANBU.

But welcome to the world of MN - where stepmothers are always wrong.

Post of step parenting for support - AIBU is just not the place for this.

AmberLeaf · 12/02/2014 21:26

where stepmothers are always wrong

They aren't always wrong, sometimes they are very wrong, sometimes they are a bit wrong and sometimes they are right. Just like everyone else.

If this was the DH posting, he'd probably have got harsher replies. But it's the step Mum posting for both of them, so anyone who questions the OP is a step Mum basher, rather than someone giving an opposing viewpoint.

AIBU is just not the place for this

Well it is, because the OP was asking if she was being unreasonable, that was a question, not a call for support.

MeepMeepVrooooom · 12/02/2014 22:02

Actually I don't think AIBU is the right board for it either. I don't see the point in posting in AIBU if in fact you are not willing to accept that within some part you maybe are being unreasonable. The question becomes redundant if the answers are ignored...

deakymom · 12/02/2014 22:21

i dont think you're being unreasonable if i was the resident parent i would be fighting for some weekend time with my kids they are my kids i hardly see them in the week once they hit school age now my daughter is a teen she wants to go out and socialise i want to see my kids not have an email about them

you might find more support on the stepparents part

for someone who has all the finances and the help being asked to look after her own children and she throws a fit she sounds like she should have stopped at one

ballstoit · 12/02/2014 22:27

I'm wondering who looks after these 4 children while their mother is working full time? And who's paying for that childcare? I suspect that as it's not been mentioned by op, it's likely that either Mum works school hours only, and is therefore also making a hefty contribution in reduced salary, or that she pays for out of school care.

I'm also wondering how having them full time with a babysitter once a week, would give you more 'quality time as a couple', than having one afternoon and at least four evenings together Confused

Kids tend to say what they believe their parents want to hear. There's every chance that they're telling Mum that they want weekends with their Dad. Either way, I can't help feeling a bit sorry for four children whose parents are arguing about seeing too much of them, rather than not enough Sad

IneedAsockamnesty · 12/02/2014 23:14

35% of the time and you either want to reduce it or have more if you get money to have them more?

That's how it sounds to me

saintlyjimjams · 13/02/2014 20:00

If you need another babysitter why not find one? (I say that as someone with a severely autistic son - we have a team of people trained to work with him, it's no good only having one - you're stuffed then when they decide to go off and live their life).

sashh · 14/02/2014 07:47

Not read the entire thread but

What do the children want? What is in their best interests?

OP you wouldn't get DLA for the eldest, DLA is paid to the person from age 16.

kozmicblues · 14/02/2014 18:27

YANBU to want a more even split of weekend days and week days

I think the ex threatening no contact rather than discussing potential change is awful

He sounds like a good father and is contributing financially - as he should

I always find it strange that the mothers think they have more rights than the father. Parental rights are equal!

As others have said, sounds like she doesn't want to rock the boat in her own relationship!

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