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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you think that Knox is guilty?

656 replies

superstarheartbreaker · 31/01/2014 22:08

I have no idea but it seems that her kissing her boyfriend at the time was seen as suspicious whereas I don't think that this is suspicious at all. DNA is...kissing one's lover.no. It's not even that inappropriate to kiss ones lover in the face of tragedy.
Didn't she do cartwheels though?

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Alisvolatpropiis · 31/01/2014 22:24

The most unpleasant thing about all this speculation is that the actual victim, Meredith Kercher, is sidelined for a pretty American girl.

Scarletohello · 31/01/2014 22:25

If she had been tried in the UK I think she would have been found not guilty as there wasn't enough evidence for a jury to convict. The behaviour of the police would have also made a conviction unlikely.

I don't understand the Italian legal system but tbh I don't think this helps the Kercher family. I know they want and deserve justice but this isn't helping them move on.. IMO

Lambzig · 31/01/2014 22:27

I think she is guilty, at the very least I think she knows a lot more than she is admitting.

NadiaWadia · 31/01/2014 22:28

It is very hard to tell. Meredith Kercher's family seem to think so though.

But the Italian justice system seems to be fairly crappy and unreliable, so I don't think the US government will allow her to be extradited. US public opinion seems all in her favour too. Feel very sorry though for Raffaelle Solicitto (if he is innocent).

Whitershadeofpale · 31/01/2014 22:28

I think it a worth reminding people that RS and AK had only known each other for around a fortnight. Seems an incredibly short time to plan a rape/ murder and rope in another stranger to boot.

Sorry that makes absolutely no sense to me alongside no strong evidence. There may be 10,000 pages but surely it's a matter of quality over quantity. I have seen or heard of no quality evidence at all.

Sallyingforth · 31/01/2014 22:29

It's a pointless question. None of us know enough about what actually happened to make a rational decision. It just comes down to gut feeling - intuition - guesswork - call it what you will. And nothing will be gained by doing it.

Joules68 · 31/01/2014 22:30

Can she be extradited? Is it likely?

If I were her I'd be off over the border to Mexico or somewhere..

happybubblebrain · 31/01/2014 22:30

I think she is innocent. I don't know much about the case but I've seen her recent interviews and she looks like she is telling the truth to me. It's only my intuition that tells me she is innocent.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 31/01/2014 22:30

and if anyone doubts that the italian legal system could be seen as corrupt, look up Elisa Claps.

this is, I would imagine, a huge ordeal for Meredith Kercher's poor family but that doesn't make it right for two innocent (if they are) people to be convicted.

Alisvolatpropiis · 31/01/2014 22:31

People have been convicted on less evidence than Knox and her male counterpart in the UK.

10,000 pages of evidence was presented at this trial.

It is offensive to say that this "doesn't help the Kerchers" as though they have been anything other than dignified throughout their terrible loss and subsequent trials.

Meredith Kercher is the victim.

LessMissAbs · 31/01/2014 22:32

Yes, I agree that she would have been found not guilty in the UK, and indeed in most countries. Italy an inquisatorial system I think. Its almost as if the court behaved as if it was leading the evidence to prove the verdict already decided. The UK is adversarial. Innocent until proven guilty, beyond reasonable doubt.

I think she has been victimised because she is a pretty girl who kissed her boyfriend (not passionately but possibly as comfort?) on tv after her flatmate was murdered. What other evidence was there, beyond understandable DNA on items in the same locus? She wrote some fiction in the past?

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 31/01/2014 22:32

who has been convicted on less evidence?

Alisvolatpropiis · 31/01/2014 22:33

joules

Amanda Know can be extradited but it isn't likely.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 31/01/2014 22:34

and ali, i'm interested to know, from this 10,000 pages what solid, convincing evidence is there?

Alisvolatpropiis · 31/01/2014 22:34

Vamp

I suggest you start reading up on criminal judgments.

LessMissAbs · 31/01/2014 22:34

Alisvolatpropiis I think you have mentioned 4 times now that there is 10,000 pages of evidence. Actually that's not that much in a murder trial, but the amount of pages is irrelevant. It is the substance of that evidence and its quality which is relevant, along with the way it is presented and examined.

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK · 31/01/2014 22:34

RS and AK had only known each other for around a fortnight. Seems an incredibly short time to plan a rape/ murder and rope in another stranger to boot.

if they killed her I think it would have been in some immature drug induced, macbre sexual way...high as kites...not planned at all...

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 31/01/2014 22:34

why's that then ali?

Alisvolatpropiis · 31/01/2014 22:35

Are we really going down the poor prett white girl school it thought?

Really?

rainraingoAWAYNEVERCOMEBACK · 31/01/2014 22:35

its staggering that cold cases decades old, can be solved through dna and yet, all that blood and stuff and people here and now and present and they cannot solve this murder.

TooMuchRain · 31/01/2014 22:35

She has been found guilty twice, and I find the attitude towards the Italian legal system patronising at best, this murder trial has constantly been played out on national lines

expatinscotland · 31/01/2014 22:36

I'm not, I just don't think she's guilty. OR Sollecito.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 31/01/2014 22:36

can you please tell me why my opinion that she is not guilty means I should be reading up on 'criminal judgments'? also, what evidence please?

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 31/01/2014 22:37

oh come on rain, you've never seen anything to suggest that the Italian legal system is corrupt?

Alisvolatpropiis · 31/01/2014 22:37

LessMiss

We can both look forward to the published judgement then. The court has 90 days (a day or so down now) to produce it.