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to want to try coke just once?

532 replies

CentreParting · 20/01/2014 22:37

I'm nearing a significant and have a bit of a bucket list.
This is one thing that I'm considering.
Sourcing it shouldn't be a problem.
I've tried softer drugs in my midtwenties, but am now just got a yearning to give it a go in a very controlled environment. But and a little bit concerned about the aftermath.
AIBU to be thinking like this?

OP posts:
Salmotrutta · 21/01/2014 22:43

Quite so.

Apparently not though.

boschy · 21/01/2014 22:53

Just kind of horrible really. I do think that drugs are pretty much for fuckwits (smoked the odd spliff back in the early 80s when it was much milder than it is now - that was my fuckwit phase).

I simply cant understand how those who are reminiscing about what fun they had can reconcile that with how they would feel if their own child was 'experimenting' or worse, became addicted?

Makes me feel sad, especially for the PP who lost her child.

AmberLeaf · 21/01/2014 22:54

I get your points anyfucker and others, but this is why there is so much misinformation around.

it is impossible to talk about drug use in any honest way.

Unless you only talk about the negatives.

AnyFucker · 21/01/2014 23:00

I don't mind a sensible discussion about drugs and tbf there has been some on this thread. Rather sadly overshadowed by the fuckwitted, backslapping oversharers. Does the use of certain drugs destroy the empathy synapses ? One would think so looking at some of these posts.

thepobblewhohasnotoes · 21/01/2014 23:00

"as are all the 'try mdma instead!' and 'aciiid!' comments. honestly sounds like a bunch of teens attempting cool."

Nope, just sharing a genuine like of acid and MDMA, and why on earth not? You can have some pretty amazing experiences on them, and you don't have to be a teenager to appreciate that. MDMA is lovely, and as drugs go, relatively safe. I couldn't take acid or mushrooms anymore, personally though, too intense for me now.

By the time I stop breastfeeding, I will have been BFing for a solid eight or nine years, and not had anything stronger than a glass of wine in that time. I won't be rushing out to have a night of abandon, but I'm certainly looking forward to it being a possibility. It would be nice sometime, and why on earth not?!

OP, coke though, it's overrated IMO.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:02

mdma is lovely according to you, it gave me a terrifying panic attack. not something i'd recommend.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:03

and there are dozens more fun things to do than drugs so why recommend them anyway? bit silly really...

thepobblewhohasnotoes · 21/01/2014 23:05

"I simply cant understand how those who are reminiscing about what fun they had can reconcile that with how they would feel if their own child was 'experimenting' or worse, became addicted?"

Do you say that when people talk about what fun they had at a dinner part where there was wine? Or down the pub? If not, why not?

Yes, drugs come with risks. But alcohol addiction, and other alcohol problems are a huge issue in our society, much dangerous than MDMA, for example.

thepobblewhohasnotoes · 21/01/2014 23:07

How about ... "there are dozens of more fun things to do than ice skating, for example, why recommend it?"

Because, for many people, it's great fun. But not everyone's cup of tea, nothing is, is it?

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:07

who's denying that alcohol addiction is an issue? just because excessive alcohol consumption is bad for you, doesn't mean coke isn't Hmm

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:08

in that case, i really pity people whose idea of fun past their teens is drugs.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:09

it was definitely never something i did unless i was very unhappy, same as drinking too much.

AnyFucker · 21/01/2014 23:10

In my experience, I find that drug users quite regularly choose some other more obvious displacement activity (like drinking alcohol/dangerous sports/smoking etc) to try and make other people shut up and condone their habit

it's rather transparent

the simple truth is, those other things are strictly regulated and drugs are not.

AmberLeaf · 21/01/2014 23:13

backslapping over sharers

thats it though, unless someone says it was awful and they regret it, then they are in the wrong.

The morals of the drug trade still stand. no one can argue with that. but you can't tell people what and how they can talk about their experiences. IMO.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:14

no but you can think that recommending drugs is a bit daft...

thepobblewhohasnotoes · 21/01/2014 23:15

"it was definitely never something i did unless i was very unhappy, same as drinking too much."

That might be why you didn't enjoy them then?!

When I'm very unhappy is the last time I'd want to take drugs! Steer well clear if you're not in a good frame of mind!

Taking drugs in a controlled environment can be fun. Even for people over 18!

Yes, people living a life based around drug consumption is (usually) pretty unbecoming on the over 25s. But having an occasional night, or weekend of abandon, with close friends, why on earth not? It's not for everyone. I like serious hill walking too. And staying in bed reading all day. Neither of which I've managed to do since having DCs. Do you think they're only for the young too?

AmberLeaf · 21/01/2014 23:16

Those other things being regulated doesn't stop people killing themselves with them though does it.

AnyFucker · 21/01/2014 23:17

no, Amber, but a bit of sensitivity wouldn't go amiss

this is a parenting site and some poor woman lost a son to drugs and she disclosed it on this thread

the fuckwitted oversharers I am sure have more appropriate places to indulge in their wanky reminiscing where they will blend in with the rest of their ilk

AnyFucker · 21/01/2014 23:19

we weren't talking about the other things though, were we, until people dredge up these straw men "arguments" in a poor attempt to make people STFU

AnyFucker · 21/01/2014 23:20

I am sure there is a RememberTheShitWeDidAtTheHacienda.co.uk or summat

Mitchy1nge · 21/01/2014 23:21

I think drugs like coke especially and even mdma are pretty indefensible, although have used them most weekends in fairly recent times, I can't imagine wanting them if I didn't have various underlying (am not sure they are so underlying actually) problems or recommending them to anyone to try for the first time. Went through a phase of using quite a lot of coke just to relax and feel normal at home and in all possible ways it was a horrible state to be in. But I'm not an 'in moderation' type of person.

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 21/01/2014 23:21

so what is the main reason for doing drugs then? what makes it fun?

thepobblewhohasnotoes · 21/01/2014 23:21

"the simple truth is, those other things are strictly regulated and drugs are not."

And your point is?

The war in drugs is unwinnable. In fact it is a major part of the problem. Drugs being illegal causes more addiction, suffering, crime and harm to individuals and society than the properly and appropriately regulated supply of drugs would.

What we all want is less addiction, crime and suffering, isn't it?

AmberLeaf · 21/01/2014 23:23

They are valid points though.

alcohol is socially acceptable but equally (more?) as destructive.

The Stfu stuff has been on the whole directed at those talking honesty about their experiences.

Alifelivedforwards · 21/01/2014 23:24

People are having an honest discussion and are not 'showing off' or being insensitive.

It's ridiculous to shut this conversation down on here or in RL.

I think it's dangerous for kids, if you are playing the 'it's a parenting site' card AnyFucker, if older people only tell them 'drugs are bad and dangerous and deadly and you will get addicted' because when they find that drugs can be fun and (seemingly?) safe they will disregard anything else you say to try and safeguard them.

It is beyond terrible that people die from taking recreational drugs but the truth is that a massively, overwhelming majority of young people taking drugs are fine.