About eating out and tipping

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I've just endured a meal with the inlaws and fil insisted on rounding the bill up - not to the nearest £10 but to the nearest £20 before splitting it out evenly between us all.

The meal was a set price the only thing that varied it was the drinks.

DH and I only had enough money for our share of the bill (tight month) and yet FIL would not accept this and nearly started a row saying we should pay the extra as it was for a tip, the service was shit tbh and didn't deserve one.

AIBU to be angry with FIL for insisting we spend more money than we had budgeted for a)because he got pissed as a fart and most of the bill was his drinks and b) for him rounding it up without asking

How do you deal with group meals and splitting the bill? This has really upset me as I'm now utterly skint

I've asked for service charge to be removed - no qualms whatsoever
Unlike some of you I don't slavishly fall In line with the done thing
I do tip well if happy, I have given feedback to mgrs about good staff too

What do I expect?
The food ordered is food brought
Courteous staff
Food prepared as was asked
If we arrive on time,to be taken to table in timely manner.as opposed to waiting whilst staff footer with iPhone and chat

A fucking Tap dance,no I'll not tip for that either

It's a long time since I worked in catering but I can say with confidence that in all the independent restaurants and cafes I have waitressed in, they would much rather you came and ate a meal and not tip than not come at all. Tips are great. Jobs are better.

I've never waited tables but I've waited behind a bar.

I didn't remember people who didn't tip.

I did remember people who argued with me, especially those who questioned my arithmetic.

I also especially remembered those who said: 'And one for yourself'.

I would never take it because I didn't want to get pissed.

But guess who got served first, if at all, on a Friday night?

It's like that at the nursery I work in limited. I always remember the good Christmas presents. Guess which kid gets it's nappy changed first?

Are you saying you'd prolong a nappy change,leave baby in discomfort based on if parent bought you a present
What a dreadful attitude as a worker and person
You'd enact a gripe on a baby because you didn't get a gift? Vile

For record if I thought any nursery worker prolonged baby change,on purpose
I'd report you to your manager, verbally and in writing.id report to local authority
I'd be requesting disciplinary action for choosing to prolong change based on whether or not you got a present

Don't panic, most people are quite capable of doing their jobs even without customers giving them gifts

funnily enough quite often the more money people have the more stingier they are at leaving tips

That's not my experience, though it might be yours.

I'm reminded of threads where people tell me that the mark of the upper crust people is that they treat underlings really well.

Maybe so. I've never recognised it.

No panic lily.you've said you'd give preference to child who's parent bought you gift

I tip about 10% in restaurants. A friend and I were once chased down the road by a waiter in a central London diner after we didn't pay the optional service charge... He'd ignored us for ages, been rude etc and we'd only spent about a fiver. So we didn't tip. He was outraged...

I sometimes tip cabbies, and tip £3 approx for a good haircut.

Lily - that's pretty shocking. So if a parent doesn't give you a gift at Xmas you take it out on their child? Nice.

Lily 1927 post has no exclamation!!No faces to indicate mirth
I'll await her convoluted explanation as opposed to yours vole star

Sorry, I should have added (lighthearted).

Aye,sure

If I worked in a nursery I'd change a nappy according to need, regardless of what I thought of the baby's mother.

Oh I think you get the jist just fine
Do you always pop up to explain what other posters mean

Oh dear scottishmummy, I did think the context of the thread would have made my meaning pretty clear but in future I will be careful to use more liberally!!111!!!!

I always tip. It's part of their salary, and it's the right thing to do. It seems fitting to me that in the service industry the payment you submit is partially discretionary.

Now, having just returned from a visit to the US I'd say the service industry there demands a recalibration. I gather there are waiters there making something like 60-70K USD because it's considered rude to tip less than 20%. I agree there's a skill involved in waiting tables (I've done it myself) but there's a logical cap to the value of this service that has long since been breached by some untouchable convention.

Vole stair,re-read your own post were you explain what you think lily meant
The bit were you explain it's apparently clever, funny, subtle but obviously not serious post
That's an explanation

I did some waitressing, I never expected a tip! :O It was nice when I did but when I didn't I didn't think badly of the person. No one knows people's circumstances and to say just don't go out to someone who may have budgeted for a while to go out is a bit mean of you to be honest!

And fwiw I generally tip everywhere apart from self service type places like Spoons and if it was terrible service I won't but I'd say 9/10 times I do tip as service is good.