to be fed up of people expecting their new babies to be sleeping through?

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It is so frustrating.

babies are supposed to feed frequently and wake in the night.

even more annoying are the idiots who suggest putting solids in the bottle and trot out the never did mine any harm line...

I'm ecstatic my ten day old slept 3 hrs in a row last night without wanting a nurse!

Nothing wrong with wishing they would sleep but unreasonable and unrealistic to actually expect it

I think I'd actually worry if he slept longer than a few hours at newborn stage. I set my alarm to feed him in the night in case he doesn't wake himself.

He always goes off before the alarm though. I'm just glad we have a two and a half year old who sleeps through anything :)

But then I had a dd who probably would have eaten her mattress if she hadn't had food. After picking up the milk she could physically not stomach the volume of.

newmum it honestly isn't about that. I am referring to people that try and put stuff in babies bottles to get them to sleep when they are so young like 8/10 weeks.

I'm a new mum myself to a 9 week old, well second time mum DD is four so been a while since I had a newborn.

anyway my advice was ignored at the end and baby had some rusks in her bottle. 10 weeks is just too young for that.

people should think about the "advice" they give out.

I know, I know!!! It's so annoying. Clearly a case of wanting baby to fit into their lifestyle rather than the other way riund. Incompetents!

I see what your saying now, i can't believe mums would do that to get them to sleep!! As you say, I want her to sleep but not at cost of her well being, I just let her get on with what she wants and then try and work round her!
I kept waking her to feed her til recently as the dr advised me at night I don't need to do that anymore.

It was obvious that you meant the putting solids in bottles thing.

Yes, as ppl have said, all babies are different.
But CIO with a newborn baby (ie, ignoring their basic needs) would instigate a visit from interested authorities tbh. So probablupy not to be recommended.

Ragwort seems strangely proud of her neglect.

Giles, I'm not sure anyone would object to the idea of giving a 9 month old porridge before bed. If they wanted it of course!

Ragwort

"my baby 'cried it out' as you might call it for the first night" This does suggest you put your baby down on the first night to CIO. Sorry if that has been taken wrong.

bumble - some mothers are incredibly proud of the fact that they never let their baby cry and they pick their baby up the minute it mumurs .

I am not looking for a bun fight over this, I am fully aware (after so many years on mumsnet ) that the way we got our child to sleep through is incredibly unpopular - all I am saying is what worked for my family. As I said earlier, it is years ago now, and I should learn to stay away from these sorts of threads /

Whilst I'd realised DC1 was going to wake up a lot in the first few weeks, I had naively thought that, once you got to 6mths or so, you did a few nights of CC or something & that was it, they'd sleep through forever more. So that was what we did. Sort of. DD was 9mths before I could bear doing CC but she was still waking every 3 hours so we gave it a go and she got down to only one feed in the night. But then she started teething a few weeks later and it all went pear shaped until she was 2.4yrs. But which time I was 30 odd weeks pregnant with DC2.
And when DC2 turned up, I realised I'd been blessed with DC1 as, whilst DC2 didn't wake any more frequently, he was a much slower feeder who then had to be winded and settled whereas with DC1 I'd been able to feed her and then pretty much chuck her back in the Moses basket and leave her to get on with going back to sleep. And we'd then been able to have lazy mornings as it was just me & her. With DC2, I was up for at least an hour every three hours and then up for the day at 6.30 when DC1 woke up.
DC2 is now 19mths and has slept through for the past two nights. DC1 is 4.3 and has had night terrors for the past week so I am now up with her. I think that in the 5yrs since getting pregnant with DC1, I have probably have 30 nights of uninterrupted sleep. My life could have been so different with sleep. And I hate it when people say "I always had a very strict routine" or whatever. Yes, so did I and it made no difference. I did every thing I was supposed to and it made no difference. I really wish that one of my friends has a third DC who is a bad sleeper as it's so apparent that she thinks the fact her DC slept through from 7wks and 8wks is due to her superior parenting and not sheer luck. Actually, I wouldn't wish a non-sleeper on anyone. Sleep deprivation is utterly miserable.

you mean it worked for you Rag.

doubt your baby enjoyed it though.

I would hate to cry myself to sleep so there's no way I would leave a baby who probably just wanted comforting to CIO.

it is cruel. simple as that.

My 1 yo dd was crying in the car yesterday. Luckily I was sitting near her and could hold her hand a talk to her. It lasted about 5 minutes.
I honestly cannot get my head around deliberately leaving a baby in that state. Ok. Some ppl do it and justify it to themselves, but truly, It beggars belief that ppl actually recommend this as a way of parenting and might consider a person is doing the wrong thing by not allowing a baby to CIO/ use cc. It must require a significant amount of detachment to do that tbh.

'Unpopular' is not the word I would choose ragwort. Wrong, selfish, neglectful, dangerous, cruel, all spring to mind first. CIO is rarely recommended (considered cruel at any age) - usually CC is suggested and then only over 6 months. The fact that you used CIO on a baby that was only a few days old, seem somehow proud of that and congratulate yourself on your parenting methods is just astounding. Then you criticise parents who do what they're supposed to do - respond to their baby's needs. Why should a baby be left to cry at that age? They're crying for a reason - they don't do it for their own amusement. Although I'm guessing you're one of these people who think babies 'manipulate' you