to be fed up of people expecting their new babies to be sleeping through?

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It is so frustrating.

babies are supposed to feed frequently and wake in the night.

even more annoying are the idiots who suggest putting solids in the bottle and trot out the never did mine any harm line...

But some newborns do sleep for several hours in a row, not through anything the parents have/haven't done, but because all babies are different and some of them sleep longer than others.

YABU. It isn't really anything to do with you if other people expect their own babies to sleep through. All mine slept through at quite a young age (without me putting rusks in their bottles) . It wasn't really any one else's business.
I agree they shouldn't be putting rusk or baby rice in their bottles though, or a drop of scotch like they did in the old days.So you are right there.

My elder two slept 12 hours from 10 weeks

Dd is 9 months and still wakes for a feed

That's awful caroviolet and Bue. There was a mum on here once (not sure if she's still around) who left her baby to CIO at around 6 weeks old :( She was really smug about it too.

bumble - my baby 'cried it out' as you might call it for the first night, perhaps it is me you are referring to? I put him to bed, on his own, shut the door and yes, he did cry for a bit - but that was the one and only time, he learned to self settle and slept through from 7pm - 7am ( with one very quick night feed) from the second night we got back from hospital. In my experience (and I am the first to admit that this is entirely personal) all those who had babies who wouldn't self settle just wouldn't leave them on their own - fair enough, that is your choice, but I don't have any regrets about letting my child 'cry it out' for a bit - 13 years on and he is still a brilliant sleeper. It might be luck, it might be because I was strict - who knows?

I'm really hoping I read that wrong....you left a new born, one day old baby to cry itself to sleep because you wanted to be 'strict' and teach it to self settle - from one day old?

Cry it out for a one day old baby? Fucking seriously?!

My two slept from being newborn but that wasn't down to cry it out, if they had cried there is no fucking way I'd have just left them to it. Newborns aren't swinging the lead when it comes to bedtime, if they cry its for a good reason.

That post is absolutely disgusting. I never comment on other people's parenting, each to their own and all that, but that is fucking shocking and if it were me I'd be ashamed to admit to it. Your poor baby.

I would leave mine on their own because they were newborn babies. Who were quite obviously crying for a reason.
My DS didn't self settle because he had reflux.
I don't know if dd would have self settled if I had left her in a room at 1 day old and shut the door... Tbh I was quite prepared to have broken sleep with a newborn, that's what you do, you look after them.

I wouldnt

Ragwort that sounds reasonable to me! I don't have any babies, but I'd imagine you were outside the door and listening till he went off to sleep.

I would go crazy if I had a bad sleeping baby - I'm a stress bunny anyway so lose sleep about work stress and so on fairly regularly and it gets so grim the next it makes me almost nauseous. I completely understand people doing sleep training so they can all, well, survive and not spend the next day fantasising about throwing themselves under a bus.

I'm sure some babies sleep through, and some won't, and some people won't be bothered if their baby wakes, and some (like me) would be frazzled and mad if they did. Asides from the rusks thing, strokes for folks - don't judge.

Is it safe to let a one day old baby go so long without a feed?? They can only take a tiny bit of milk each feed.

However, I don't think there is anything wrong with expecting slightly older babies to sleep for proper chunks of time. Both of mine slept 11-7 from 7 weeks, and 7-7 from 12 weeks - it can happen.

(Talking about older babies and sleep training btw, my baby-knowledge is obviously very limited.)

Wow, your 1 day old must have been such an inconvenience to you. And I don't care how that sounds, shutting the door on a one day old is disgusting. Not to mention totally against SIDS.

Couldn't give a fuck if that's harsh. Newborns aren't naughty, they've spent nine months inside you and want comfort and food. It's normal.

Oh and they wake up because their stomachs are tiny and need refilling.

How could you shut the door on your ONE DAY OLD baby? I couldn't even be in a different room from him at that stage, never mind shut him away for 12 hours.

pandarific, no, it's not reasonable. It's abusive and goes completely against any guidelines. 'Sleep training' is not recommended for babies under 6 months old and most people wouldn't even use it at that age. If you don't want to lose sleep, don't have a baby - simple. Having a baby involves looking after them which includes feeding them throughout the night at regular intervals when they are small - not just closing the door and ignoring them until it's convenient for you. What the hell use is standing outside the door listening to a newborn cry itself to sleep? Does it make a difference if she was outside the door, in the next room, or downstairs watching TV? She was still ignoring the needs of a newborn.

Well they can expect all they like - doesn't mean it's going to happen!

Wasn't til I had a child myself that I realised how daft my Mum was for complaining that I didn't sleep through til I was 7 weeks old! 7 weeks! Dream baby or what?

But I also agree that new Mums have a right to complain because it is hellishly awful not getting proper sleep. I don't think people who complain expect you to solve their problems for them OP or for the problems not to exist - it's just nice to have a bit of sympathy!

Wow that is disgusting. Might he deleted but I don't care? You nurture a new born not close a door on them. People like that don't deserve children

Some babies do sleep through pretty early I know - but I think that is just luck. I have a friend who thought it was because of what she did (feeding often during the day) with her first, until she had her second...

Apparently both by brothers slept through v early but my Mum didn't CIO or anything - she was just lucky - they were big babies with good digestive systems.

But please don't say that new Mums shouldn't moan - it's just something that needs to be done!

I personally believe that all women who have recently given birth have the right to see themselves and be seen by others as the Queen Of Fucking Everything.

I so agree with this - am expecting in about a month btw..

bumbleymummy I did say I meant older babies the next post down. I have no idea of the guidelines for newborns as I've never had one, but I'm aware of sleep training, controlled crying etc in the abstract.

This drove me mad! My Mum has a very selective memory and kept telling me that me and my 3 brothers all slept though from 8 weeks. DS was prem and in hospital for a few weeks and was in a clockwork 3 hour feed routine from scbu - he was never going to be quick to sleep through!

None of us whinged when teething either... Apparently!

formerbabe I guess you didn't have a child that simply doesn't need a lot of sleep. My ds woke every two hours as a baby and slept badly until at least two, when he started sleeping through. But then as now, he wakes up between 5.30-6 am. There is nothing we can do to change this, he just doesn't need as much sleep as some other children.

Please don't be to smug about your children sleeping through and not waking early. With a different child your strict routine may not have worked so well.