to think older teens should be made to watch what an abortion is in PHSE. (sorry possibly triggering)

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I know this may be controversial but I have thought this for some time.
Abortion is legal in this country but still straight forward , informative talks about it are clouded by morality and judgement and at the end of the day, sometimes people need to have one in tragic circumstances i.e people who are made critically ill by pregnancy.
And are often as well as already scared and sad, i don't think most people make this decision lightly, are woefully underprepared which i'm sure must only add to emotional trauma.
and of course there are too many potential uninterested fathers who just utter 'get rid of it' at the hearing of potentially being a father, so disgustingly flippantly like throwing a crisp packet in the bin, I do think if they especially had seen a medical video of the procedure, well i think the number of people who just thrown that term around would be significantly less, if they had actually seen that image with their own eyes , and would be less detached from the idea and process.
I'm talking older teens , like 16+ here , not 11 year olds.
my mum and i have always though this, i would find it traumatising and pretty shocking, but compared to people who feel shame, go backstreet putting themselves at risk and people who go through with pregnancies they did not want/need. Surely a bit of discomfort is better then that being a legacy of another generation.

I really doubt that many women don't know what the procedures depending on what stage of pregnancy the woman is at, will not know what it entails. Doctors are generally inclined to explaining medical procedures...

Yes. and an explanation from a doctor should be enough. Being made to watch in graphic detail is too much.

What a horrible, horrible thread. I read the OP and was just aghast.

For most women choosing to have a termination is a very difficult and emotional choice and one that affects their life forever.

And you think making them feel even worse by showing them such videos is a good idea??

Why exactly?

Your whole OP just screams of judgement on your part and that women should be shamed into having babies they don't want or can't have.

What about women who choose abortion for medical reasons? Do they need to sit through such films to be guilt tripped and made to feel like shit too? Or is termination 'allowed' in those circumstances?

The OP wants the thread deleted.

Tough.

Maybe your agenda is to allow abortion but to make women feel as guilty as absolutely possible about it?

I have to be honest - I read the OP as more naïve and not fully understanding why most women have abortions, than horrible/nasty.

Writer - most of us don't find the termination affects their life forever and to be honest it's that sort of propaganda that is hard as women fee guilty for not feeling guilty, if that makes sense.

It is fine to have an abortion. Sentence ends there, no 'but' or 'because' or 'if'. The only person who can decide if it's right or not, is you - if you feel abortions are wrong, you don't have to have one. But if you DO want one, you can have one and you don't "have" to feel anything at all.

It's not often an AIBU gets such a resounding Y.

Traumatising the youth. A very bad idea.

Sorry I think this is a really stupid post op. are you catholic or something?

rainy - I have had a termination myself (I would have thought my post would have come across that way but obviously not ) and it was in generally shitty circumstances. It was 14 years ago now and I'm still waiting for the upset to pass... At the time I never felt so low and I dread to think what watching a graphic video would have done to my state of mind.

btw - in case it doesn't come across, I am very pro-choice. I didn't mean to imply in my post that women should feel guilty about their choice if they do terminate so I apologise if I accidentally offended anyone.

No, not at all Writer - so sorry to hear yours was in awful circumstances. Mine was too, but I think I feel sad and traumatised by the circumstances, not the procedure - does this describe you?

I think I just picked up on it as I felt so relieved and light and free after mine. I had been so ill in early pregnancy and being released from that and free to restart my life felt like being reborn. I became myself again after that, laughing, socialising, happy. And I felt guilty about it, because I felt like I should be sat in a room crying :) But I've come to realise most women feel largely as I did.

Huge hugs x

I must admit I don't read the OP as necessarily being religious. She obviously has her views and has put them and most of us have disagreed with her.

If she wants the thread deleted, she's allowed - it's not "tough shit".

For gawds sake. What the hell business is it of yours?
Just want to make girls feel good and guilty, do you?

Btw, it doesn't have to be a traumatising experience.

I am 28. I know about abortions and how they are carried out. I wouldn't want to see a video of an abortion.

In fact I think showing the video would put a lot of women having one.

rainydarkskies, that also describes my experience. Thank you for articulating that so well.

There was a programe on the bbc when teenager call some like "doctors in training".

It followed people becoming doctors .

On they show 2 abortions an early one and late one.

It put off abortions for myself for life .

Now, now DadonIce, no need for swearing.

Why is putting women off having abortions necessarily seen as a good thing?

We watched a video of an abortion at 8 weeks in my R.S. class in sixth form a few years ago. As far as I can remember it didn't change anyone's mind about abortion, we were all still pro-choice coming out of that lesson. In fact, many of us were amazed at just how simple an early abortion is, even a non-pill one. We were not disgusted and if it had been done to try to convert us it would have failed miserably.

Whereas everyone who hasn't seen that programme merrily has one abortion after another with a sense of blithe glee.

I think it was called something like "My Foetus" and was shown on Channel Four.

Because sometimes it is the best thing, Kittensoft

Yes, why is putting women off abortions a bad thing?

There are lots of children being raised in abusive homes. I understand there's this reverential thing that makes people feel better about saying abortion is bad, but I think it should be challenged.

The Silent Scream has been comprehensively debunked. It's thoroughly manipulative and wholly dishonest propaganda.

just to prepare, if they did purely that, how to access,what do they ask you? how you are cared for after , what happens during a procedure, how to deal with possible pain afterwards etc to educate.

And again: why abortion? Why not want to show that about dentistry or other common procedures? Early stage abortion (far away the most common kind) is a simple and safe and quick process. I've had one, and frankly the root canal I had a few years later hurt a lot more but was otherwise not dissimilar. Also a day case swift procedure you treat with a few pain tablets after. Do you think all young girls should watch a documentary on both? I'm sorry but your argument just doesn't make any sense. Why do people need to know about a fairly minor physical procedure, uniquely amongst common medical procedures, if your interest is solely the medical aspects?