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Scalded son, mother punishing grandparent, is this reasonable?

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vr6lee · 09/01/2014 09:50

My mother had an accident with my son, to cut a long story short the kettle ended up being pulled from the worktop by my son while in her arms, this ended up scalding the bottom of his leg and top of his foot ending in a skin graft.
My mother is devastated and has really struggled with whats happened. But my girlfriend is not helping at all. She has said she doesn't want her near my son again and will never look after him again. I have talked her round and my mun has been able to see my son a few times. There is tension between my girlfriend and my mother now so I have offered to take my son up to my mothers so she can see him as she really does love him to bits. But my girlfriend has poo poo'ed this and says the only way she is seeing him is at our house when she is present.
I think this is undermining me as a father as I have said I would be present at all times just to ease her mind, but I can now only come to one conclusion and that she is doing this to punish my mother by making it as difficult as possible for her to see her grandson.

My question to other mothers is do you think this is fair behavior or is she being very harsh.

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Lee

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fluffyraggies · 10/01/2014 09:05

Because she doesn't trust him, or his parents coco. And the woman is traumatised.

On the tiny amount of info we've had many of us are guessing the lack of trust is because in the run up to the accident OP was happy to let his parents undermine the routine that was established at home, and that the OP has deemed 10 weeks more than enough time for his GF to be 'over it', and is now proccupied with his mothers feelings in case it hinders the house renovations Hmm

lougle · 10/01/2014 09:11

I wonder if I met you, sockreturningpixie - I was there in the summer of 2003 Smile

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/01/2014 09:17

More than likely, does a 9yo RTA victim who lost about 50% of her skin was the first child in the uk to have the now routine muscle graft procedure then back balloons in total about 90 ops ring any bells first name begins with A?

lougle · 10/01/2014 09:42

Wow, sock, no. I'm thinking back....it was a placement in the June/July of 2003.

Has your DD recovered well? I met a few children there, but it was mostly tea/bath scalds, in the children at that time. Still harrowing for them and their parents Sad

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/01/2014 09:44

She was there from may-end of aug then back again sept-December then New Year's Day for the next 15 weeks.

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/01/2014 09:46

But she was moved about ICU/burns/peads and round and round each one many times

lougle · 10/01/2014 09:55

Ah right, so she was at the hospital, but possibly not the burns unit when I was there - The children I saw were all under 5.

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/01/2014 10:02

Yep, it was rather traumatic for all of us

CouthyMow · 10/01/2014 10:07

Sock, Keema, Altinkum. My heart goes out to all of you. ThanksThanksThanks

volvocowgirl · 10/01/2014 10:42

Has the OP come back again to mudsling at his GF any further or insult people for giving their opinions (which he asked for)? Or has he given up in a sulk?

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/01/2014 10:43

Couthy,

Damn nice to see you back

Bluegrass · 10/01/2014 10:48

"Has the OP come back again to mudsling at his GF any further or insult people for giving their opinions (which he asked for)? Or has he given up in a sulk?"

Take away the posters who are here to "mud sling" at their partners and both the Relationship and AIBU boards would disappear in a flash! Hell, it would be like a morgue right across MN!

CouthyMow · 10/01/2014 10:59

Real-life was battering me for a while but I'm back now and using Siri because I collotypes WTF? excuse the stupid missing punctuation. Can't hide properly. Hi FFS. TYPE. Thank you Siri finally.

TalkativeJim · 10/01/2014 11:02

Is this really still going... I stopped posting as I thought it had been kind of relegated to the hot bovril and sympathy shelves...?

volvocowgirl · 10/01/2014 11:24

True, Bluegrass, true... Hahah!

It was more the drip feeding of mud when he realised it wasn't going the way he wanted I found more amusing / desperate / pathetic I guess.

I've mudslung myself, but then taken onboard the AIBU responses - as I know I can be a twat some times! Grin So that's why I've asked in the first place. If I had wanted sympathy or mindless agreement I definitely wouldn't have gone there! I think the OP was just after ammunition Hmm and a strop.

TheBigJessie · 10/01/2014 11:32

curlew I think Darwin would react badly to being thanked for evolution, and tell me to re-read his Origin of Species.

Besides I think being sympathetic to such a need on the part of a woman is "civilised, evolved, human rationality". It's having theory of mind, and evidence of having developed enough as a species that we can intellectually understand how others might think.

P.S. My husband says getting married and becoming a DIL didn't turn me into a bitch, just so you know...

TheBigJessie · 10/01/2014 11:37

Or a cow, for that matter.

springysofa · 10/01/2014 12:44

It was an ACCIDENT. Accidents happen. God forbid that your GF should be in attendance when an accident happens, but she would at least understand that ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

We live in homes full of hazards (and that's not including hazards outside of the home). It's so easy to blame when something like this happens but most often no-one is to blame, it was just an accident.

As others are saying, it will take your GF a while to calm down. But it does sound like she is using this as an opportunity to sideline/punish your mum.

Hope your boy goes on to make a full recovery and that you all find a way through this.

vr6lee · 10/01/2014 13:01

I have been monitoring this thread, its just getting repetitive, dig one way, dig the other, good advice etc etc.

I may have not shone myself in the best light and made myself look like a mummy's boy (which I am a long way off as I have ignored lots of her advice and only used to visit once a week tops). And a little off the wall for my earlier comments, I've grown to accept the come back from mumsnet for not giving every little detail of the situation / my relationship and have learned that some people jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.

I have a good education, good job, lived away from home for 10 years in total and owned my own house for 6 of them, not exactly immature.

Been there for child birth, every dressing change apart from 1 when I was ill. Dressing changes are now long gone by the way and my sons foot is healing well, he has to wear a pressure sock but doesn't affect him at all.

Thank you for all the support and advice, Altinkum most recently was especially level headed I though.

I didn't know how long this situation would take to come to terms with for my GF (hence one of the reasons for coming on here), I've never experienced anything like it nor know anyone who has. But from feedback I accept 10 weeks is pushing it get things back to normal and will now give the GF more time.
I am going to ask my mother to show how much she cares for my son and show she can be a safe GM and build up trust again with the GF.
And many more pieces of advice!

Lee

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vr6lee · 10/01/2014 13:09

Oh and as for burns, cool for 15 mins and then cling film can be applied. Just thought I should clear that up.

And I do wish all the other burns families best of luck for the future.

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LtEveDallas · 10/01/2014 13:52

Well done Lee. Best of luck to you and your family.

THERhubarb · 10/01/2014 14:10

I also think this thread has got way out of hand, but that is the nature of Mumsnet at times. Posts are painstakingly dissected and over analysed just so that some posters can be judgemental and form their own conclusions.

I stopped reading after I posted the first time.

But vr6lee you sound very level headed and I congratulate you for taking the initiative to resolve this very tricky situation.

Can I suggest that you sit your gf down and talk to her. Listen to what her fears are. Has she had concerns about your mother previously? Does she feel your mother interferes? Is she afraid of this happening again? Would she feel differently if it had been someone else who had been responsible, like her own mother or you?

Once you have listened to your gf you will have a better understanding of her pov and at this stage it really doesn't matter if you agree with her or not, don't offer an opinion, just listen.

She needs to know that you are taking her points seriously and are not dismissing them.

Give it a couple of days afterwards and have another chat with her. Raise the points she made and see if you can reach a compromise. Be prepared to accept most things on her terms and perhaps give it a deadline - agree to support her completely on her terms for 3 months say, then set a date for another discussion to see if you can move forward.

You also need to talk to your mum with your gf's approval. Put some of your gf's points to her and gauge her response. Tell her that you understand what a shock it was and that it was a complete accident, but she simply MUST understand her daughter-in-law's point of view and be willing to compromise.

Either she takes it slowly with your gf or she runs the risk of ruining the relationship completely.

Your gf may well blame herself for this, for not following her instincts perhaps in letting your mother care for your son. If your mum was doing her a favour (was she working?) then she might feel even worse, perhaps thinking it was her fault for not being there, for needing childcare, etc. Mothers find any way to blame themselves, we can't help it.

She needs your support and your understanding.

My little boy broke his two adult front teeth last year and bit clean through his lip whilst at school. They didn't send him home. We spent that night with him in A&E as he vomited and shook in shock. I still go over the incident time and time again. It was only minor compared with what happened to your son but nevertheless it affected me badly and so I can only imagine how your gf feels.

Now do take her out for a meal. She needs a break and she needs to be reassured. Remember that her and your son are your family now and their needs trump those of your mother. Harsh, but I realise that one day I will be second in the life of my son too.

It's bloody tough being a mum. Your gf needs some TLC.

And very well done in coming back onto this thread, that must have been hard considering the criticism that's been levelled at you.

HeeHiles · 10/01/2014 14:10

Yes - patience and understanding - you have all had a terrible shock and it will take time to get back to 'normal' Glad your little boy is making a speedy recovery and I'm sure your GF and mum will be able to reconcile this in time - best of wishes to you all!

HeeHiles · 10/01/2014 14:13

Beautifully summed up Rhubarb!

vr6lee · 10/01/2014 15:50

Thanks Rhubarb, you do make allot of sense. Advice duly noted.

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