to think that "Andy Murray" and "personality" don;t really go in together in teh same sentence?

[Justforlaughs]

He's just won "personality of the year" why?? I know he won Wimbledon, but even so...

"AIBU to think that "Andy Murray" and "personality" don't really go in together in the same sentence?"

You don't think that's speaking badly of him OP? Blimey, how do you speak about people badly then? I think suggesting someone has no personality isn't particularly pleasant myself.

I wasn't sure about him for a while as he comes across quite grumpy and dour. But I think he's grumpy, dour, very very focused, and also nice, with a sense of humour. YABU.

Well, I think 56% of the total vote is quite convincing.

Judy Murray was on Radio Scotland earlier and came across really well.
Of course talent, drive and opportunity have to come together to produce an outstanding sports person.
Personality is different again and I am in Team Murray

purits Who is Scotland's No2 player? Why, it's Jamie Murray. Amazing coincidence

Scottish Rankings from the LTA website
1.Andrew Murray
2.Jamie Baker
3.Nicolas Rosenzweig
4.Jonny O'Mara
5.Cameron Norrie

HTH

kew i wasnt having a go at pushy mothers I was being silly all i was saying that Andy and Jamie have had lots of money spent on training camps all over the world and Judy is a tennis coach Britain isnt realy well know for great tennis players most need to go abroad and I think the murrays had a commitment to their boys tennis and they put everything into it,

Who is Scotland's No2 player? Why, it's Jamie Murray. Amazing coincidence

oh and erm there is this too ,

All top tennis players these days have had lots of money spent on training camps etc, aren't Andy Murray and Rafa Nadal freinds from Barcelona training camps as teenagers? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about AM

I don;t anyone was trying to say he was some kind of poor urchin who escaped from the gutter by his shining natural talent? Perhaps they did and I missed it.

In the absence of anyone saying that, your comment looked to me (especially coming after Purits) like you were saying he hasn't got there because he's committed and talented but because his mother made him.

YABFU and very unpleasant.

I am not trying to make any point about Andy Murray somebody up thread said he had got where he is under difficult circumstances he really didnt I dont think his mother made him I think his mother and father put everything they had finacially and emotionally to get their sons to play tennis

It really doesn't matter what his "circumstances" are.

He has succeeded at the very top of a spectacular era in men's tennis.

If anyone thinks this is just because he is relatively privileged and has a "pushy" mother, then they are bloody thick.

there is nothing wrong in children showing talent for something and parents encouraging talent , the children have to want to do it though and it looks like the Murray boys did or they would have rebelled and given up in their teens

anyone thinks this is just because he is relatively privileged and has a "pushy" mother, then they are bloody thick.

I consider myself told Hester

My ds loves him. He has no idea who footballers are (thank god). Andy Murray has my vote.

Yabu OP...I reckon this thread shows that.

Why did you think I was specifically referring to you? Are you one of the people who considers that the only reason he has succeeded is because he is relatively privileged and has a "pushy" mother? Because I mentioned no names.

He may have a boring voice. He may not dance around the court singing "Oh what beautiful morning". He may not grin like a loon whenever someone points a camera at him (Federer doesn't either, by the way. Nor do any of them).

What he does do is succeed at the highest level, work incredibly hard, and he clearly dearly loves his family and friends.

Why the fuck does he get stick?

I didnt say he got where he was because he had a pushy mother and I was referring to my post on the thread jings folk are so touchy about a bloody tennis player who got an award

who personally i like

I wasn't insinuating he'd escaped a sink estate, but dunblane is a small town, pretty out the way, and yes, there is what happened at his school, it's had a lasting legacy in his community. The fact his mum trained him, and not some hotshot who cost millions should surely go in his favour!?

YABVVVVU

mrsjay again, I wasn't referring to you. Why do you think I am talking to you?

I think people are "touchy" though because they feel protective of him. He has grown up in the public eye and perhaps in his gaucheness, he reminded people of their own big, gangling, awkward, monosyllabic teenage sons. The fact that so many people still seem determined to dislike and disparage him, when actually he has grown into a lovely young man right before our eyes, make us cross on his (and his family's) behalf.

Only in this country would people be so determined to put down such a successful and exemplary athlete.

Why did you think I was specifically referring to you?

because i was answering this I am not putting him down at all

But I didn't mention your name!!!!!!!! I used the world "circumstances", tis true.

I think I'm going to have to leave it there.

Let's have a

Compared to the prima donnas of the football world, Andy Murray is at last a Scottish and British sportsman I can hold up to my children as a good example. I think he's quiet, understated and hard-working rather than dour. He seems pretty witty to me but it's all said with a straight face and some people don't "get" him it seems. I live in Scotland and it's a certain type produced up here and I like it and him!

He comes from a small town background and I think it's amazing he has gone so far.

In his younger self he totally reminds me of my gangly son Hester Shaw, you are so right, he gives me great hope! - Obviously not for tennis, we are rubbish at that, but for personality!

He's self contained and private,unlike many shagging avaricious footballers

Interestingly his mother says that she was much pushier with Jamie (who is older) and she thinks that Andy driven by the desire to beat his older brother as much as anything.

What I like about him is that in order to win he had to really take on board what he was doing wrong and address it - he's really interesting if you hear him talk about how he had to learn not to lose his temper so much on court. I like it because my DS who is a nifty tennis player has issues controlling his temper and its such a fab role model for him to see someone who succeeded partly by learning to control his temper.

That he cocked up the timing of an interview with the BBC doesn;t bother me so much though clearly it does some.