To wonder why people increasingly refer to places not in London as 'in London'

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I genuinely don't understand why people say they live in London when in fact they live in a town within the M25.
Croydon is not in London is it? Nor is Kingston. I never remember people referring to these towns as London years ago. Is this a new thing?

Why are you bothered?
and both those places are London boroughs

I think of croydon and Kingston as London they both have 0208 numbers which I think of as outer London.

Do you consider Richmond London?

No hardboiledpossum I think of Richmond as in Surrey.

They are London boroughs. I live in croydon but never say I live in London though. Everything in the m25 is greater london.

I'm from the Valleys. I consider everything east of the M4 Reading turnoff 'London'.

As others have said, they are London Boroughs. There is more to London than just the West End.

I always say London. I don't think of Richmond as surrey.

What about places that have a tube station? Some of those can be very far out, yet they're on the network. What about Cockfosters, Edgware? Amber sham cannot be London surely?

Croydon is in London. It is a London Borough. It is just not central/inner London.

Sutton, Croydon, Kingston, Richmond - all London boroughs but I grew up in the 'Surrey' school of thought. It's just out of habit I guess.

If it's on the tube or has an 0208 number then I think it counts as London. Croydon, Richmond etc are all London.

Oh I'm with you redpipe.

I know someone in Richmond who insists she lives in London. It's in fucking SURREY. Which is a county. As is London (I think).

Just because you're on the tube network or use cockney rhyming slang or your local newsagent sell The Standard, it does not mean you live in London. It's geographical, innit.

lol at WelshMaenad

eurochick
obviously there is more to London than the west end but surely Bromley is in Kent not in London and Croydon is in Surrey not London.

A lot of 'croydon' is in Surrey, has a non london postcode, but is within the London borough of croydon.

It's not really London, it's only croydon because its in that borough IYSWIM?

Some people refer to the place as being in surrey or kent etc if they go by the postcode. Others refer it as London if they go by the borough. Unless I lived in a London postcode I wouldn't describe it as London even if it were within a London borough. But I wouldn't care of someone else did.

Morden is at the end of the Northern Line, it's always been Morden in Surrey for me!

WelshMaenad

If the postcode starts with N, S, E or W then it's London!

Ammersham isn't in a London borough though, it is bucks. Richmond is considered a London borough. Where do you live op?

But if you were addressing a letter to Croydon it would clearly say Surrey not Surrey/London wouldn't it

Yes the postcode would be CRX XXX and it would be Surrey def not London

PMSL - my DH is from South East London and gets really annoyed at people who say they're from SE London like some badge of honour when they're actually from Croydon....or even worse BROMLEY!

I can hear him now "BROMLEY'S IN KENT!!!!"

He goes by postcodes as that's how a lot of Londoners (ones he knows anyway) tend to identify themselves. Croydon does not have a London (as in SW, SW, EC etc) postcode so according to him it's not in London

He will accede to "Greater London Borough" though.....just.

I'd say Richmond is as close to London out of all them though. I'd probably let her off.

Mind you, Downham which is in Lewisham borough, has a BR postcode, Bromley it aint!

I agree with you but I think some people go by the borough or just like the whole 'I live in London don't you know' thing.