To think change4life shouldn't partner up with a baby killing machine?

[LambinsideaDuckinsideaTrout]

Nestle? Really?

www.nhs.uk/change4life/Pages/national-partners-nestle.aspx

Excuse the language but, what the fucking fuck?

Nice cut and paste,but it adds no gravity to your claim nestle bought this contract
If you chop chop you'll get the nhs online fraud completed in 30 min time to feedback

Cut and paste and the link to where from. Is that a problem with you?
I'm not sure whether you are talking about the contract for C4L or whether you are talking about the RCM dropping out of the boycott. Whatever it is, money talks, as you admit they have the money and the clout to do what they want.

Either way I won't be filling out any forms or reporting back to you Miss Trunchbull.

You'll not be reporting this fraud by the mult-million pound baby killing machine?
Gosh,why ever not?wheres your conscience?dont you want the baby killing machine to be held accountable
Or is it simply that you've got no factual basis,you made it up

Found the question mark button I see?
Incredulous that you're questioning my conscience.

You're perfectly willing to shout from the rooftops about the unfair aspect that some people in our privileged country might not get access to a health programme if C4L didn't run.

But the unfairness of nestle using child labour, or unethical practices which breach WHO code of conduct, and numerous other unfair acts on their part doesn't bother you.

Apart from anything else, it's ridiculous that things like C4L have to exist. But there are people who aren't bright enough to make sensible decisions about their lifestyles so there it is.

Someone has to fund it, far better a company than the public purse. But to make out that people who choose not to boycott are just as bad as the company themselves is a little extreme. I buy Nescafé (one jar every couple of months) so I don't think they are going to get very rich off that.

you actively participate in boycott of nestle but won't report nestle alleged malpractice online?
I would have thought given the fervour you feel at nestle this would be your duty to report,a claim if upheld would cause nestle considerable poor press
Let's see it's either
A)you have no substantiation to your claim the change4life tender was obtained fraudulently
B)you believe it to be true,but won't report
C) it's all made up online blah
D) you question others conscience,but don't act on your own convictions

I didn't claim the C4L contract was obtained fraudulently.

I know someone has to fund it (if it must run) but a government Health scheme being sponsored by a junk food company is just stupid.

They drain water from developing countries to sell for profit.
action.sumofus.org/a/nestle-water-pakistan/?sub=homepage

Their huge range of unhealthy products and companies are the reason we need a campaign like change4life in the first place. They are such a bad choice of sponsor. From chocolate to sweets to chocolate flavoured milk to sugary cereals to formula milk (I could go on) the effect this company has on worldwide health is disturbing. I don't think there is a more unsuitable sponsor, maybe a cigarette company....

Cripes!skidmarks!youll do yourself a injury all that backtracking about nestle
I see you now assert no nefarious practices by nestle in bidding for contract
I've explained why nestle et al want associations with nhs,because it's positive association for their brand

Bit like how McDonalds want associations with MN and thus advertise on here.

No back tracking here. You must be confused.

They do have unethical and code breaking practices though.

Can you clarify I think nestle paid them and they got into bed with them.'Working on the inside' apparently
Said in context of thread about a contract
Paid who?the change4life team?who has nestle worked on the inside?

You asked me about my thoughts about the Rcm dropping off the boycott list. Those were my thoughts. I have no proof other than what I copied pasted and linked to.

Are you determined for me to become a parrot repeating myself over and over like yourself or you just not able to follow the thread?

Presume you dislike the direction of thread?i express consistently view consistently
Did you think everyone would congratulate you on your boycott,saying its wrang
You see that's debate fir you,one person lays an opinion down,it goes in many direction(not necessarily as you intended) hence the name calling and parrot stuff

YANBU to raise this issue (and I say that as someone who doesn't boycott Nestle)

YABveryU to refer to them as 'baby killing machines', and with that you lost any support I might have had for your campaign.

It's not MY campaign.. I referred to Nestlé as a whole business as a baby killing machine which it has proved itself to be.

Scottish mummy

Direction of thread is fine with me. Reactions to it have been what I expected from most. From what I can see the thread/debate hasn't gone in many directions.

Isn't it about time you if I'm drunk,that's what you usually do to undermine posts
Maybe a passive aggressive wee clinky.anything to distract away from content you dislike
I do think had you been less histrionic in your posts,less prone to name calling,it would make for better thread

I don't think other posters have been scared off.

Scottishmummy just has a different view - she is giving her opinion as you are giving yours. You have strong views which is great but you have to accept that others do too.

Oh dearie,you're v intemperate and not good at dealing with other pov
You've not made a. Single articulate point,it's a task to unpick your hyperbole
You didn't think of the obvious,why should people who don't boycott nestle potentially be denied a health scheme partnered by nestle

OP I'm with you. Nestle have for years aggressively promoted bottle feeding in countries where it is unsafe to do so. They know this has resulted in the death of babies. They then continued to do this for years.

If this was happening in the West there would be such a huge backlash, if a baby died because of one of their products and they carried on advertising it would you still then be so scathing of a boycott. Or is it because it is happening in a country far away so it doesn't really matter, I mean loads of African babies die so its not quite as bad.

They are scum.

Lots of info here from UNICEF snd others here

As I said.boycott has failed.abysmally Ergo the masses must support baby killing if one applies hyperbole on thread?