To think that if you can't control your children, you shouldn't come to hotels?

[HomeIsWhereTheGinIs]

DH and I are currently staying at a very nice boutique hotel in the countryside. It's been a hell of a busy year and so the idea was to treat ourselves to a couple of days somewhere luxurious and to do lots of reading and sleeping. However, we're staying at a place that's converted old outbuildings into suites, two suites to a building. And the family next door have the two noisiest children on the face of the planet.

Yesterday morning we were working up by the children shrieking to one another and then for their mother (it appeared she'd pushed them out into the communal stairwell to play). A phone complaint later to reception and the noise ceased (and they glared at us every time they passed us in the hotel). But damage done, we were already awake (and given that I am exhausted all the time from this pregnancy, it was awful not being able to go back to sleep). Yesterday evening, exactly the same thing. Screaming children sent to "play" on the stairs and landing outside our room where they screamed, ran around and then got into an actual fight (complete with shouted insults and wails for a parent). It happened again this morning at 7am (there goes our lie-in) and this time the call to reception had no effect.

I'm really cross that I haven't been able to have a lie-in because of their lazy parenting. I remember going to hotels with my family when I was small and my mother coming down on me very hard when I was too loud and in danger of disturbing the other guests. They're the only children at the hotel and their running and screaming in the library yesterday was attracting frowns from every other couple there. AIBU to hate the parents of the noisy brats for being so selfish and entitled? My feeling is that when you have kids, you don't get to just ignore behaviour that might be ruining an experience for other people.

Miss if that was aimed at my comments about staying at home, then you should know that I have 6 children and for that reason we never go to hotels, never stay in chalets or apartments that are linked to others, and always ask to be places in out of the way areas on holiday or areas where a bit of noise wont hurt. We are noisier than most families as there are more of us, not due to behaviour issues.

All it takes is some thought for other people and not to ride roughshod over others rights to privacy and enjoyment in the name of ME ME ME!!!

The date's irrelevant. Lazy, crap parents don't have the right to inflict their badly behaved children on other people.

It's a time bound problem op. In a year or so you'll be so knackered you'll sleep through an entire toddler group marauding through the hotel.

The parents were being unrealistic in taking their chook reek to this hotel though. My ILs are desperate for us to take our young kids to their med holiday home on a retirement complex and don't understand why we won't despite repeated explanations. Some people just don't see the obvious until it is right in front of them. Ido agree with going to an adults only place.

Try complaining to the manager or hit their fb /twitter, that usually has some effect?

Miss X post.

In response to your "things need to be done" well yes they do, but I wasnt aware that a lie in was something that needed to be done, and especially not at the detriment of other hotel guests. They may have been at a wedding or some such, ok so unavoidable hotel stay. What WASNT unavoidable was the racket the kids made, the way the parents dealt with it (or rather, didnt) and their staggering selfishness. Why should their lie in be more important than anyone elses?!

Meant to add that if a child is behaving badly/tantrumming but you can see the parent(s) trying to do something then I have sympathy with them. It's the ones who don't bother/behave in the same way as the parents in the op who annoy me.

Children not chook reek (though no one should take that either)

Cold that would all be plausible, if they had not done the same the next day and then totally ignored the phone call telling them to pack it in, presumably because they were getting their revenge on the OP for complaining the previous day!

YABU when you go to a hotel you have to accept that people might be staying there who do things you don't like. This is what life will be like when your baby comes, I hope you can be more understanding then for your sake.

Bogeyface it saddens me that other people's attitudes have caused you to think that. I have a fostering friend who can be fostering up to 12at a time. They take them on holiday and get glares comments the works etc. Have people move tables when they see them come in and then get profuse apologies from the staff afterwards when they realise how very well behaved too. You mention you always choose to go somewhere out the way of others. How do we know the parent in this scenario didn't ask for this in the first place, after all OP did say it was fully booked.

Cold it doesnt say that, I am just guessing! But it seems a bit of a coincidence that it happened again, after they were giving the OP evils after the original complaint.

And yes, I know someone who would do that, he is just like the sort of parent described here. Selfish, lazy and spiteful. And of course his children aren't little shits at all! No, they are little angels and the reason they are no longer invited to parties, and they as a family are never invited anywhere, is because we are all snobs who cant deal with a "spirited" little fucker child.

Never said their lie-in was more important than anyone else's did I? I was replying to your "sodding well stay at home" comment.

It's all about training. Parents are supposed to train their children to be decent, polite members of society. And mainly not to annoy other people. My dcs are extremely well behaved in restaurants/hotels. I would have half-murdered them if they had even for one second entertained the notion of getting down from the table at any point, or made any inappropriate noise.

Recently we stayed at a vair posh hotel and I noticed that dogs were permitted in some rooms. Ah, I thought, we could have brought Dog. Then I thought again. Dog would have created havoc: eaten a few pillows, left copious amounts of hair on the high threadcount bed linen and devoured the hospitality tray, very much including the tray. So for that reason I speedily concluded that it would have been foolhardy to have brought Dog. If only people could go through that thought process about their children.

Miss

it saddens me that other people's attitudes have caused you to think that Caused me to think what? That we should all consider others when comes to our behaviour or that of our children?
That a couple wanting a shag lie in without their kids in the room is staggeringly selfish when said kids are causing a riot and disturbing other people?

This is what life will be like when your baby comes, I hope you can be more understanding then for your sake.
My life isnt like that, I cant imagine why anyones would be. Do as you would be done by, that holds true whether you have no children or 20.

DejaVuAllOveragain I agree. The parents in this scenario sound like the latter which we are all in agreement with. What irked people is the "we'll curb the tantrums" "stop your children terrorising other guests" comments from the OP. All of which were misunderstood by people who dared to disagree.

Miss yes and I was replying to you "things need to be done". There is a world of difference between taking 2 truculent toddlers to Tesco because you are out of everything, and having a lie in together. One is absolutely essential, the other is nice if you can manage it but one of those things you pretty much have to kiss goodbye to when you have kids.

I hope you can be more understanding then for your sake.

I fail to see why anyone has to be 'understanding' about someone's bad behaviour.

Caused you to think you can't take your kids to a hotel in case someone gets a bit narked at the mere presence of kids. OP actually never said this was an adult only hotel by the way. And again no one is disagreeing with her about the fact the parents were disrespectful.

You mention you always choose to go somewhere out the way of others. How do we know the parent in this scenario didn't ask for this in the first place, after all OP did say it was fully booked.

Because they would have apologised to the OP for disturbing them.

"This is what life will be like when your baby comes" was you addressing me with that reply Bogeyface? Because I never actually said that. Anywhere.

NannyOgg I was suggesting that could have been a possibility. Yet given the parents attitudes I can't begin to think they would have the good manners to do that. I,along with many others have repeatedly stated the parents choice to do nothing regarding the kids behaviour was unreasonable. It was the following comments which people told her she was BU for.

No Miss it was a PP.

I dont go to hotels with them because I know how I would feel if I was having a weekend away and was disturbed by a tribe of kids (we are a tribe!). They have good manners, do try and be respectful but at the end of the day they are children. So we go self catering, away from others if we can, so they can run riot and not disturb anyone but me.

I dont get why that is unreasonable! I do it because while I chose to have children, I dont expect anyone else to put up with their noise, and children do make noise.

Of course they do. Again no one has said OP was unreasonable for wanting such. She was unreasonable with her subsequent comments.