feminists

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This is the first time I have started a thread, I lurk often and post sometimes.

I know that a lot of MNers are proud feminists and this is often mentioned in posts then followed with claims that femininity is anti feminist. For example make up and time that a woman spends on her appearance is a blow to feminism.

I strongly believe in equal rights for EVERYONE, regardless of gender, sexuality, age, race. My question to any feminists who are reading is do you feel that women need to be more like men in order to be equal, and if so does this not mean that the patriarchal views of past generations have simply been passed onto us. So you can be a successful woman, but only if you downplay your looks and gentler side.

Because to me that isn't really a victory at all, more of a surrender.

I'm with Doris Lessing on this one.

I went to Greenham for my summer holidays one year when I was little. There were lots of ants, and campfire singalongs of You Can't Kill The Spirit. It was quite like guide camp, really. I can't remember whether we ate celery or not.

I think "not quite keen" makes you a wishy-washy pseudo-feminist agent of the patriarchy, but I'll have to look that up in Celery: A Feminist Perspective tomorrow.

I like celery. But I am from the Southern US. We put celery in everything. And onions and green peppers. We call these three the Holy Trinity.

When I say 'not quite keen', I mean 'I would eat it in lasagne but not on its own'.

It might be the Stockholm Syndrome of vegetables though. I have been conditioned by the patriarchy to conceal my dislike of celery.

yes Santas but I was 14 - I have a few pics of me looking moody outside the fence

I used to stay at Vegan camp (was that Blue?) because when people donated chocolate they used to give it to us!

I can't stand celery

gordy please call me Liney this is my pitiful xmas namechange that will last a day.

I was at Yellow Camp. Red was the business, though.

Divested.

Liney hello

Turquoise was vegan!

It would be good to put together a 'scrapbook' of photos on MN one day of Greenham.

What does (did) Doris Lessing say about this. I have to know.

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She'd probably say 'I would be a feminist but I liiiiiike men'

I read that like you were speaking with a cold erstie

I think Doris preferred spring onions, MistAll.

I have not readvanswers to orogonal post so apologors if I am reprating.I tjought of posting today to sah how rodiculous and offensive I find t that in tepliesbto posts I sometimes see the word feminist used asan insult!!!sorry but to me that is li,e using you non racist as abuse.I hold these truths to be self evkdent feminism and ceryainly nothing to apologise for. I will never forhet in my early 20ies as a fully qualified teacher having to get my hisbands signature to allow me tp get dental treatment. He was still a student at tjetime. Same proceedure applied if you wanted to rent a TV. Signature required of any male family membet. Today I find that hard to be
Ieve, so asI daid i hold tjexe truths to be self evident and refuse to apologise. Sorry damn ipadlaying up again, spellimg wise. Ooooops no permission sigature from a male to use it

I lived at Greenham for a time.

Celery was eaten.

Blue had a lot of vegans.

LineRunner I would love to see your photos of camp.I never took many - had no camera.

Doris Lessing said she had never met a woman who wasn't a feminist.

Did she ? Gosh, not sure I agree with that.

Sorry, I meant that isn't my experience.

I guess Doris Lessing was never on MN.

US feminism 101 states to not assume patricial intentions unless told to do so.

Or something like that.

Sweet, Tee