To get infuriated by people mis using parent and child spaces?

[nothingbyhalves]

It's all in the title really. A woman just told me she had parked in one because she had a dog in her car. Aibu to think she is inconsiderate?

Well that's why exceptions don't make rules.

I can only use my judgement and would apologise (while removing said crutch).

If I said on here that I told noisy teens to be quiet on the bus, at least someone would come along and say 'those teens might have special needs you monster!'.

But I still think people should tell noisy teens (or adults) on the bus to please keep it down.

Beyond - yes...bloody phone.

Sorry OvO but that makes you just as obnoxious as the people who use the accessable loose just because they can when a non-accessible would suffice. Even more reason to move the spaces even further away from the entrance.

Love the idea of widening spaces.

I am a bit of a twat, Walter. I only do it if the P&C space is closer than the nearest available disabled space - which I don't think is twatty of me. BUT I do cackle evilly as I do it and I do harbour secret hopes that I've annoyed one of the precious mummies that use the disabled loos, which is definitely twat behaviour.

I admit it. My name's OvO and I'm a twat.

Life, yes it make me obnoxious but it really, REALLY doesn't make me just as obnoxious.

No, parking in a bay that's closer doesn't make you a twat.

Hoping that by parking there, you're inconveniencing somebody because they might have possibly used a disabled toilet? That makes you a twat.

I wonder do you believe in karma?

Life, yes it make me obnoxious but it really, REALLY doesn't make me just as obnoxious

Yes it really, REALLY does.

No.

I take it up you aren't disabled?

Because then you'd know there's a big difference between me taking a P&C space and the "inconveniences" some non disabled people cause disabled people.

Where did that 'up' come from. Fgs, my brain won't type today!

You don't seem to be grasping what I'm saying: hoping that you've caused someone's day to be a little bit shitter because you're disabled and he/she isn't is just a nasty, obnoxious way to behave.

How does that make you better than someone who makes a disabled person's day a bit shitter by making them wait a few minutes to use the toilet?!

And no, I'm not disabled but close family members are.

Er Walter - that's not what she said. She uses p&c when they are closer & in doing so mentally sticks one finger up at those who use the disabled loo with no need. I can understand that tbh

I think you're extrapolating with everything else.

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I do harbour secret hopes that I've annoyed one of the precious mummies that use the disabled loos

???

If only it was just the toilets. People make my life shitter in oh so many ways. You'd be surprised how shit people can make it by not even trying to, just by tiny moments of thoughtlessness.

All these daily bits of shittness grind you down and I already tend to be quite grumpy, so I don't smile and let it go, I have my occasional little moments of twatty ness.

I'm not trying to defend my actions, I KNOW they are twatty, just trying to explain how I got there.

And I am always trying to impress upon my DC that you and you alone are responsible for your behaviour. No-one can make you say or do something. So I know my behaviour is down to me and no one else but if I can have just this one moment to use my 9 year old logic - if other people would stop being twatty then I wouldn't have to be twatty back!

Please know that I do know that's the wrong attitude but like I say sometimes I just have enough and think if I can't beat them, join them.

I suppose walter is a perfect person who never ever harbours any unsavoury thoughts.

Please tell me you are the woman I overheard ranting about this to a male friend at the Trafford centre the other week. I wanted to give you a real and point you to MN!

I park in them...

I don't blame you, I suppose.

I see what my df and dsis suffer on a daily basis and it pissed me off!

But inconsiderate people piss me off in all walks of life so I suppose I'm from the "two rights don't make a wrong" school of thought.

Still, it's easy for me to think that when I'm not suffering as a result of it. I get that.

Wow. Thank god we aren't all like that. I can hold a grudge better than most but trying to purposefully inconvenience a whole section of society, most of whom will never have done anything to you other than go for a piss and take their pushchair with them .... Well, that takes the biscuit.

I suppose walter is a perfect person who never ever harbours any unsavoury thoughts

I'm flattered but fail to see why you would assume so. Still, compliments are always welcome so thank you.

Mouthful, I know my first post read badly and that's my fault as I deliberately posted it like that to be arsey but I would have hoped my further posts would have explained myself better.

Walter, thanks for being so reasonable. I know that you're in the right so your reasonableness is even more thoughtful.

I do harbour secret hopes that I've annoyed one of the precious mummies that use the disabled loos

I understood that as: she hopes she's annoyed one of the mummies that Use the disabled loos when they are not disabled and by doing so they prevent a genuine disabled person from using that loo.
If I have understood that correctly then I can totally understand why she feels that way. She isn't hoping that she's inconvenienced every parent who needs the parent and child spaces; just those that prevent disabled people from accessing the facilities that are specifically for disabled people.

I don't think its twattish in the slightest, just a disabled person who is fed up of being inconvenienced by able bodied people misusing the disabled facilities.

Yes mouthful but you've probably never been bruised as a result of someone taking their pushchair in for a pish. Both ds1 & I have so I harbour grudges against them as well (ds1 doesn't afaik - an advantage of his condition).

People who use P&C spaces who don't have small people are twats. I include in that those with 7/8 year olds who could quite easily cope with a smaller space.

They aren't a necessity? Tell that to the new mum who's ran out of nappies, it's raining, who has sore, leaking nipples, a burning c-section scar and a newborn who's pooh'd through its nappy. Said mum then has to negotiate a car seat and said baby out of the front of the car because some fucker has parked needlessly in a P&C space.

There are far too many people who have forgotten those early days and seem to resent new mums, which I find bizarre.

er age really shouldn't be driving with a burning c section scar

*she