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DD uninvited to family party

117 replies

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:24

I'll try but probably fail to keep the details vague...

We have a 2yo DD. We only see DH's aunt and uncle 2-3 times a year, but they dote on DD and there are always excessive photos/exclaimations of how good she is etc. When visiting them nearly six months ago, DH's aunt and uncle told us they were planning a big birthday party this December, save the date. Fine.

Mil has heard about various arrangements as they have been made since then, and the option of booking a room at the venue was discussed and taken up by pil and DH and I. Fine.

When visiting the aunt and uncle again with pil a couple of months ago, there was further group discussion about this party (which has turned into a bit of a beast) and we found out it is to be black tie, dinner the works. , but fine.

An official invite arrived a few weeks ago, along with a Christmas card (!) with a note saying how they are so pleased we can join them and look forward to seeing us in December. The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD, and the printed invite had no names... (Can you tell where this is going yet!?)

I bought DD a beautiful dress, which I told mil about, who speaks to the aunt and/or uncle maybe weekly.

When visiting them last week, mil told them that is the venue could supply a highchair, great, if not, DD is fine on a chair. She was met by absolutely incredulous rant from the aunt (her sil) about why would we even think about bringing a child to a party like this. None of her friends would presume to bring their children to an adult event. She genuinely couldn't understand what gave us the impresion that DD was invited. Basically, poor mil got in the neck, they stuck to their guns about DD and then smoothed it over for the sake of family harmony.

Now poor mil has had to tell DH and I. Now, I am a bit cross that it has come to this and we've already booked a room. I do understand people want child-free events sometimes (although I wouldn't make that choice), and if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum. But now it feels as if she has been uninvited, and I can't help being a bit miffed. DH is cross (as I would be if it were my side of the family), but we have agreed he has to go so as not to upset his mum. Apparently if we can find someone to look after her, she can stay in the hotel room and come for breakfast the next day. I have said a firm no to that suggestion, it's not fair to disrupt her routine for no reason. I am minded to send DH with his parents and stay with DD and send them my apologies and best wishes. I am not really upset that they have excluded her, because she is too young to understand, I understand people want child-free events, and at least it's not my family being a bit bonkers! But I am irritated at how they've gone about it, and that aunt was apparently very judgemental that DH and I don't leave her with a babysitter every week and go and 'socialise'. And I feel for DH.

We made opposite assumptions, but were we wrong to assume what we did? Should we suck it up and leave DD with my mum? If DD were older and therefore disappointed I would definitely stay with her (and take her somewhere to wear her new dress), should I do that anyway? I'd like the excuse to get out of this to be honest. Don't get me started on the 'gift list'. Grrrrr, rant over.

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TEEARDIS · 23/11/2013 15:28

They either uninvited her or the whole thing was a misunderstanding from the beginning. No idea which.

But I would send DH and stay home with daughter.

WooWooOwl · 23/11/2013 15:29

I think YABU.

You had no reason to assume that your dd would be invited, you should have checked before buying a dress and booking a room.

I wouldn't have assumed that a toddler was going to be invited to a black tie party, that was your mistake, and I can't understand why you made the assumption either.

They had no reason to believe that you had assumed your dd would be invited. They clearly love her, but not everything has to be suitable for children.

titchy · 23/11/2013 15:31

Why on earth would you assume it was ok for a toddler to attend a black tie do????

I guess like most people aunt and uncle would reason that you'd leave your dd given that the event was clearly not one for kids.

Angloamerican · 23/11/2013 15:31

Sorry, I wouldn't have assumed that a 2 year old was invited to an adult's party, regardless of how much the party giver doted on my child. And you found out months ago that it was a black tie dinner? Why on earth would you have thought that a suitable event for a toddler?

I think the aunt sounds rather rude in her dealings with your MIL, to be honest, but I'm flabbergasted that you thought a black tie event would include a toddler. And I wouldn't necessarily just send your DH and stay home. It looks as though you are deliberately making a point, when really, your assumption was unreasonable. Get a sitter, enjoy the party and don't let this become a big deal!

Shellywelly1973 · 23/11/2013 15:32

Both sides at fault here due to poor communication!

StrattersInTheTARDIS · 23/11/2013 15:32

YANBU, the invite was unnamed, and arrived with a card addresses to all if you. I don't think you made an unfair assumption, and personally I'd just send DH, and stay at home with your DD.

Mintyy · 23/11/2013 15:32

It doesn't sound like she has been uninvited? Just that there was a misunderstanding between you. Could your dh go on his own?

palemistyveil · 23/11/2013 15:33

Sorry. I don't know why/how you presumed such a young child would be able go.

hackneybird · 23/11/2013 15:33

YABU. It's their party, if they want to have a child free grown up event then it's up to them. Your DD hasn't been uninvited as she doesn't seem to have been invited in the first instance. Although they should have been clearer from the start - sounds as though assumptions have been made on both sides which has led to this misunderstanding.

StrattersInTheTARDIS · 23/11/2013 15:33

Addressed.

palemistyveil · 23/11/2013 15:34

And an element of poor communication on both sides. But I wouldn't have said she was 'uninvited' at any point.

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:34

Maybe. I think it's just the way the arrangements have developed though. I didn't know it was black tie until the invite arrived, and each planning stage has been discussed with mil over the course of a several months.

If it had ever genuinely occurred to me to clarify I would've done and been fine with the answer... Ho hum, you live and learn eh.

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TeenAndTween · 23/11/2013 15:34

I think for me the warning bells might have rung when I heard it was black tie, dinner, the works, as that doesn't sound very child friendly.

I don't think your DD has been uninvited, your uncle and aunt never explictly invited her. But they also didn't make it clear initially that they weren't expecting her to be there. Also you never thought to check, even when you heard it was balck tie.

So dreadful communication all round.

So I think either your DH goes on his own, or if you feel like it, your DD stays with your Mum and you both go. But don't be grumpy about it as I don't think it was your aunt and uncle's fault, just a general misunderstanding.

She can wear the new dress for Christmas day maybe?

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longtallsally2 · 23/11/2013 15:36

You didn't know it was going to be a black tie do, when discussing it originally. You assumed that it was an event to which dd was invited, and no-one corrected you. Big misunderstanding all around, but not worth getting too het up over. Take the dress back, or let your dd enjoy wearing it at Christmas. Go if you want to, or if you feel that it would be taken the wrong way to say away. Just put it down to being one of those things - and ignore Aunt's snidey remarks, or go along to the do and make sure you comment on what a busy social life you have now that you are able to socialise with your dd and her friends as well as with your own.

starfishmummy · 23/11/2013 15:36

Sorry I think YABU.
From what you have said it really does sound like the invitation was just for you and your dh. That an event is black tie would certainly have set alarm bells ringing for me.

Thumbwitch · 23/11/2013 15:38

I think YANBU to think that they could have made it plain from the start, or at least after they'd decided to make it black tie, that your DD was not invited, not least because that would mean someone would need to look after her.

I think YABU because you could have checked with them after the invitation arrived and your DD's name was not on it.

But it sounds like a great bloody mess, and as of now, if it were me, I would also stay at home with DD and send DH by himself. I don't think I'd be able to enjoy it, or cover up my disappointment in the way things were(n't) handled so wouldn't be much point in me being there.

What does MIL think - assuming she's the nice sort who actually cares about you and your feelings?

Floggingmolly · 23/11/2013 15:39

In what context were they raving about how "good" she was?

You seem to have taken it as meaning they were happy that she'd be well behaved at their party, but it sounds like they never had any intention to invite her at all, and you just got your wires crossed?

CoffeeTea103 · 23/11/2013 15:39

I can't believe whatever gave you the impression that your dd was invited. How on earth could you assume black tie and dinner would include children??? Surely your dd would be asleep by then as well.

I think you are confusing how much they dote on your dd with why they don't want her at the party. Yabu and you should not be in the least bit upset with the aunt as the misunderstanding was from your side. Surely with formal events these days people ask if kids are invited anyway.

comedaygoday · 23/11/2013 15:39

A black tie do doesn't sound very child friendly so tbh I would have assumed your DD was not.invited. This does not mean that the Aunt is not very fond of your DD.

LadyHarrietdeSpook · 23/11/2013 15:40

They never specifically invited her from what I can tell from your op.

Vatta · 23/11/2013 15:40

Um. I can see both sides to be honest. On the one hand if it's a family party, you assume the family (inc children!) is invited. On the other, a black tie dinner is not really suitable for young children.

I think they should have specified, but also in your shoes I think I'd have checked. Sorry!

Best bet now is probably to send your DH, and just explain that your dd is too young to be left with a babysitter.

It's definitely not your aunts place to be criticising your babysitting choices though!

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:40

Ok, uninvited was a bit strong. And the dress is not a big deal.

You are all right though, it was my mistake in not questioning that not all families are like mine (nor should they be). I repeat, it has kinda morphed into a bigger posher deal that originally planned. I shouldn't have let pil book a room for us before it was all arranged.

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MinesAPintOfTea · 23/11/2013 15:42

Why would a black tie automatically mean the DD isn't invited? Young children go to family weddings with a long sit-down meal etc.

I wouldn't go, but then I'm a bit grumpy about things like this.

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