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DD uninvited to family party

117 replies

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:24

I'll try but probably fail to keep the details vague...

We have a 2yo DD. We only see DH's aunt and uncle 2-3 times a year, but they dote on DD and there are always excessive photos/exclaimations of how good she is etc. When visiting them nearly six months ago, DH's aunt and uncle told us they were planning a big birthday party this December, save the date. Fine.

Mil has heard about various arrangements as they have been made since then, and the option of booking a room at the venue was discussed and taken up by pil and DH and I. Fine.

When visiting the aunt and uncle again with pil a couple of months ago, there was further group discussion about this party (which has turned into a bit of a beast) and we found out it is to be black tie, dinner the works. , but fine.

An official invite arrived a few weeks ago, along with a Christmas card (!) with a note saying how they are so pleased we can join them and look forward to seeing us in December. The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD, and the printed invite had no names... (Can you tell where this is going yet!?)

I bought DD a beautiful dress, which I told mil about, who speaks to the aunt and/or uncle maybe weekly.

When visiting them last week, mil told them that is the venue could supply a highchair, great, if not, DD is fine on a chair. She was met by absolutely incredulous rant from the aunt (her sil) about why would we even think about bringing a child to a party like this. None of her friends would presume to bring their children to an adult event. She genuinely couldn't understand what gave us the impresion that DD was invited. Basically, poor mil got in the neck, they stuck to their guns about DD and then smoothed it over for the sake of family harmony.

Now poor mil has had to tell DH and I. Now, I am a bit cross that it has come to this and we've already booked a room. I do understand people want child-free events sometimes (although I wouldn't make that choice), and if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum. But now it feels as if she has been uninvited, and I can't help being a bit miffed. DH is cross (as I would be if it were my side of the family), but we have agreed he has to go so as not to upset his mum. Apparently if we can find someone to look after her, she can stay in the hotel room and come for breakfast the next day. I have said a firm no to that suggestion, it's not fair to disrupt her routine for no reason. I am minded to send DH with his parents and stay with DD and send them my apologies and best wishes. I am not really upset that they have excluded her, because she is too young to understand, I understand people want child-free events, and at least it's not my family being a bit bonkers! But I am irritated at how they've gone about it, and that aunt was apparently very judgemental that DH and I don't leave her with a babysitter every week and go and 'socialise'. And I feel for DH.

We made opposite assumptions, but were we wrong to assume what we did? Should we suck it up and leave DD with my mum? If DD were older and therefore disappointed I would definitely stay with her (and take her somewhere to wear her new dress), should I do that anyway? I'd like the excuse to get out of this to be honest. Don't get me started on the 'gift list'. Grrrrr, rant over.

OP posts:
Mumsyblouse · 23/11/2013 17:02

OP, not sure why you are getting such a hard time, they managed to get you to save the date, book a hotel room (via MIL) and send an invite before the fact that your dd wasn't invited was made clear. I don't see how this is your fault, and a family party is exactly the type of thing children are invited along to, black tie or no.

I wouldn't put yourself out to go if you don't want to, if you really don't mind leaving dd with M then that's fine too.

notnagging · 23/11/2013 17:05

Yabu
Just because they dote I. Her doesn't mean they'd want her at an adults party. You said she won't be going to breakfast because it will disrupt her routine? Wouldn't staying up late do the same? This shouldn't have been a big deal.

fluffyraggies · 23/11/2013 17:08

I think correct etiquette is for the host to ensure they are crystal clear about arrangements for their event. To sure ensure that their guests don't suffer any inconvenience as a consequence of accepting an invite.

This info. should include any stipulations about dress, arrival and departure timings, nearby accomodation, transport, provision of food, and weather or not it is a child free zone!

It's manners.

OP, i think YANBU to have got muddled.

defineme · 23/11/2013 17:14

She ranted because she was embarrassed that she'd cocked up.
Take the higher ground and don't mention it.
Go if you want to, send dh on your own if you don't.

Bowlersarm · 23/11/2013 17:17

Their DD WAS mentioned specifically, her name was on the card along with OP and husbands

Yes but that's because the dd was invited up for the weekend celebrations, in that she was invited to the big lunch the next day.

It's just bad communication. Aunt and uncle had no intention of two year old being at a black tie do, but being looked after in the hotel bedroom and to join in with the sunday lunch. OP thought she had been invited too.

Thatisall · 23/11/2013 17:18

It's just a case of poor communication. The aunt might have gone a bit OTT because she's worried that you'll arrive with dd and other guests will think that their dc have been excluded iyswim?

Try not to let it get to you. Book a sitter or send dh without you.

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 23/11/2013 17:20

In my family children are invited to every party, same with DH family.

It's only on MN that I have ever heard of children being excluded from family events ( so I do double check with friends now)

Mia4 · 23/11/2013 17:20

YWBU to assume your DD was invited, you should have got clarification.

They WBVU not to address the invite, especially as the even hadn't been shown to be an adult only one.

Just miscommunication all around I think. However, they were VVU to kick off at your MIL about it. A simple, 'I'm sorry but it's an adult only event' would have done.

landrover · 23/11/2013 17:54

At the end of the day, its only a birthday party, if you cant get a sitter then you can't go, its not the end of the world!

BratinghamPalace · 23/11/2013 18:12

Go to the party. Dress up. Stay in a hotel. Have a late breakfast. Enjoy yourself with DH. Miss your child. Then go home and get her.

ethelb · 23/11/2013 18:12

The way I read it the card was to all of them. So not unreasonable to assume.

AmberSweet · 23/11/2013 18:20

Has anyone read the OP properly? the OP said the her DDs name was on the card along with hers and DHs? How would it then be unreasonable to assume her daughter was invited black tie or no black tie! YANBU as far as I can see and I'd be pissed off as well.

foreverondiet · 23/11/2013 18:22

Yabu to assume a small child invited to an evening black tie party unless they specifically said she was. She is only 2 so a) won't mind being uninvited b) it will be more fun for you without her and c) it will be v boring for her.

Don't be offended it's a misunderstanding - totally different if your daughter was say 10 as then she might be gutted to find out not invited.

I would sort out the babysitter and go to the party. I might feel different with a 10 year old. Fwiw I have a 3 year old Ds and if I received such an invite with his name on I'd be declining on his behalf for the reasons above!

palemistyveil · 23/11/2013 18:24

I thought it was the Christmas card that had her DD's name on it? The invite had no names, but the envelope was addressed to OP and her husband.

AmberSweet · 23/11/2013 18:30

Palemistyveil in that case hands up I misread the op. Then I would have thought it was obvious that the DD was not invited.

palemistyveil · 23/11/2013 18:37

I had to read it twice to be sure, actually Grin

firesidechat · 23/11/2013 18:42

Yes it was the Christmas card that had all of their names on. The aunt was just trying to save on postage and the two things - Christmas card and invite - are totally unrelated.

longjane · 23/11/2013 18:55

I think if you are going to have family child free overnight event it is only polite to tell parents as soon as possible so they can get babysitting sorted. As lots of people don't have overnight care on tap.

These people are parent and should know this.

aquashiv · 23/11/2013 18:57

Should we suck it up and leave DD with my mum - do this have fun and forget it.... enjoy the break it would be a pain in arse taking a child for everyone.

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 19:03

The envelope was addressed Mr & Mrs (DH's initial) Doodle. In it there were 3 items:

  • The printed invite, with venue details and times and no other actual info.
  • The Christmas card, "Dear Doodle's DH, Doodle, and DD", wishing us a happy Christmas and New year. Then "we are so glad you can join us in Dec to celebrate..." Love DH's aunt and uncle.
  • Gift instructions.

I'm sorry if I haven't written clearly, I do try.

I wasn't waiting for an actual invite in the post to this party as it has been so well discussed and planned in advance and it's 'close' family.

I accept it was my job to check, and am a bit upset at the implication I was too presumptious and think my DD is centre of the universe, that's miles from the truth. I accept blame for not checking though, and for making an unwitting social error- I guess I was so surprised because I'm not used to family being so formal with each other.

OP posts:
eddielizzard · 23/11/2013 19:06

ok well sounds like a massive misunderstanding to me.

clearly your mil also made the wrong assumption. and give your aunt a little slack - she's stressing about all these massive parties and over-reacted. i bet loads of her guests are being prima donnas so when your poor mil came along she just lost the plot. benefit of the doubt.

i would go with your dh, leave dd with your saintly mum, but i wouldn't go for lunch the next day. your dd isn't a thing to be trotted out when desired but otherwise must be confined to a hotel room. ridiculous! so leave her behind, and return as soon as is practical.

but the whole thing would leave a sour taste in my mouth, because of the 'oh she can come to lunch - lucky girl' thing.

AgentZigzag · 23/11/2013 19:10

Without anything identifying and purely out of interest, what kind of gifts are they asking for?

whatever5 · 23/11/2013 19:12

YANBU. If a friend invited me to a party I certainly wouldn't assume that children were invited but family parties are a bit different, I think.
They should have told you when they asked you to "save the date" that children weren't invited so that you didn't book a family room unnecessarily. Not everyone can get an overnight babysitter. You should have checked whether children were invited when you found out it was a formal black tie event though.

FTRsGotAShinyNewNN · 23/11/2013 19:12

I can see both side but tbh for the most part I think yanbu.
In my family a 'family party' would mean the whole family and unless I was told otherwise or I particularly wanted a night off! I would assume DS was invited, so for that reason I think they should have clarified earlier especially since your mil had been in regular contact with them about it.
However once the invite arrived and it said black tie that would have raised a question from me about the suitability for little ones.
I think you just have to chalk it up to experience and try and have a nice evening

ajandjjmum · 23/11/2013 19:14

We had a black tie party for DS's 21st and I know certain members of DH's family were upset that their 3 yo DD - very openly - wasn't invited (she loves parties - she's the centre of attention type of thing). Having confirmed that it was not an event for children, they didn't even have the courtesy to reply.

I know this isn't the same as your circumstances, but it's obviously an adult party - it would be a shame for this misunderstanding to spoil it for anyone.

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