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DD uninvited to family party

117 replies

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:24

I'll try but probably fail to keep the details vague...

We have a 2yo DD. We only see DH's aunt and uncle 2-3 times a year, but they dote on DD and there are always excessive photos/exclaimations of how good she is etc. When visiting them nearly six months ago, DH's aunt and uncle told us they were planning a big birthday party this December, save the date. Fine.

Mil has heard about various arrangements as they have been made since then, and the option of booking a room at the venue was discussed and taken up by pil and DH and I. Fine.

When visiting the aunt and uncle again with pil a couple of months ago, there was further group discussion about this party (which has turned into a bit of a beast) and we found out it is to be black tie, dinner the works. , but fine.

An official invite arrived a few weeks ago, along with a Christmas card (!) with a note saying how they are so pleased we can join them and look forward to seeing us in December. The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD, and the printed invite had no names... (Can you tell where this is going yet!?)

I bought DD a beautiful dress, which I told mil about, who speaks to the aunt and/or uncle maybe weekly.

When visiting them last week, mil told them that is the venue could supply a highchair, great, if not, DD is fine on a chair. She was met by absolutely incredulous rant from the aunt (her sil) about why would we even think about bringing a child to a party like this. None of her friends would presume to bring their children to an adult event. She genuinely couldn't understand what gave us the impresion that DD was invited. Basically, poor mil got in the neck, they stuck to their guns about DD and then smoothed it over for the sake of family harmony.

Now poor mil has had to tell DH and I. Now, I am a bit cross that it has come to this and we've already booked a room. I do understand people want child-free events sometimes (although I wouldn't make that choice), and if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum. But now it feels as if she has been uninvited, and I can't help being a bit miffed. DH is cross (as I would be if it were my side of the family), but we have agreed he has to go so as not to upset his mum. Apparently if we can find someone to look after her, she can stay in the hotel room and come for breakfast the next day. I have said a firm no to that suggestion, it's not fair to disrupt her routine for no reason. I am minded to send DH with his parents and stay with DD and send them my apologies and best wishes. I am not really upset that they have excluded her, because she is too young to understand, I understand people want child-free events, and at least it's not my family being a bit bonkers! But I am irritated at how they've gone about it, and that aunt was apparently very judgemental that DH and I don't leave her with a babysitter every week and go and 'socialise'. And I feel for DH.

We made opposite assumptions, but were we wrong to assume what we did? Should we suck it up and leave DD with my mum? If DD were older and therefore disappointed I would definitely stay with her (and take her somewhere to wear her new dress), should I do that anyway? I'd like the excuse to get out of this to be honest. Don't get me started on the 'gift list'. Grrrrr, rant over.

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optimusic · 23/11/2013 15:42

Would be very childish to not go because you assumed your child was invited to an adult party.

palemistyveil · 23/11/2013 15:43

Go, and enjoy the party!

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:45

flogging, I didn't mean it in relation to the party as such, only to illustrate that they seem to enjoy her company and are not child-hating monsters. 'Good' as in 'well behaved'.

LadyHarriet, in that case, they never specifically invited me or DH either!

There is a "small family gathering at the house" the next lunchtime, which she is apparently expected at "of course"

Once more I didn't know it was black tie. I bow to the wisdom on mn though, I was wrong to assume.

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ivykaty44 · 23/11/2013 15:46

seems strange you would have upset her routine to go to an evening party but not to breakfast with family the following day.

I think the black tie was a big clue that it is not the sort of event a two year old child would normally be invited to attend

tumbletumble · 23/11/2013 15:47

It's OK if you'd rather stay with DD than go, but make sure it's not for the wrong reasons (ie because you're pissed off over a misunderstanding).

AdoraBell · 23/11/2013 15:48

The black tie aspect would have been the alarm bell for me, but I still don't think YABU simply because of the aunt's attitude to you and DH not "socialising". That tells me that she always expected you would leave DD with someone to attend a family celebration, and because she expected it never thought she have to actually say it.

Send DH, with apologies to MIL and let DD wear the new dress another day, the suggestion of Christmas is a good one.

And a gift list? Is it a wedding?

TalkativeJim · 23/11/2013 15:48

The only thing I'd be angry about is the 'incredulous rant'.

The reasonable response is a horrified face pulled by the aunt, an immediate -'oh, I'm so sorry, we have totally misunderstood one another...no, it's not really suitable for a toddler...we assumed...oops, we are very sorry but is it possible that you could find a sitter and come?' etc.

That is the POLITE way to deal with what sounds like a natural crossed wires situation.

The rude, entitled, stroppy response would be the thing which would probably make me want to back out. Which might still be a little unresonable. But honestly, where are the manners here? Your poor MIL.

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:48

Just re-read my OP. I didn't find out it was black tie until the invite arrived, although their son joked when we were last there about how his mum would have it black tie if she had her way (when talking about how big the whole thing was getting).

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Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:50

Not a wedding, a birthday party...

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TEEARDIS · 23/11/2013 15:51

If you read the OP, it sounds to me like it started out as just a big family party and at some point morphed into a black tie affair.

So I don't think the OP was out of order assuming her toddler was invited.

I am not sure why the hotel room cannot be cancelled though. Surely there's plenty of time for that before the event?

ThenSheSaid · 23/11/2013 15:52

The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD.

Do you still have the envelope???. If so I would show it yo your Aunt and Uncle so that they understand why you thought your DD was invited. I would not do it on a confrontational way and then I would let the matter go completely.

I then think you should simply do whatever you want with regards going to the party. It's ok if you choose to go or if you choose not to.

DontmindifIdo · 23/11/2013 15:54

Well, until the actual invite came along, it's a bit odd to have made arrangements for it. I know a lot of people here think it's very important to have DCs at everything, but IMO, a blacktie evening event would never be childfriendly - even if your DD was tolerated at the event, it wasn't something that you should be thinking of actually taking her too, few 2 year olds can stay up late in formal attire being sweet and charming after their bedtime. It's just asking for stress, why would you want to take her? It would be stressful and not enjoyable for you, you'd be giving up on the party just as it was getting warmed up so you could take it in turns to sit upstairs with your DD.

I'd leave her behind with your mum and go and enjoy the party. If you really don't want to go now, call the hotel and see if you can get your money back on the room, or call the Aunt and see if any of the other family want a room.

ThenSheSaid · 23/11/2013 15:54

Blush Oh, sorry, ignore my comment about the card/envelope - I misread your post

NoComet · 23/11/2013 15:55

Having NO babysitting of any kind, I take enormous offence at child free Weddings and Family/Friends parties. I think they are down right rude and that people shouldn't assume children can just be parked like suit cases.

Certainly, I think people should make their invites clear from day one!

Sadly I have learnt that people with granny round the corner don't think at all.

Weirdly people without children do. DHs work colleagues organised wonderful inclusive summer BBQs and young and old with or without children made adjustments for our DDs, even in the early days when they were often the only ones.

BasilDalekEater · 23/11/2013 15:55

Aaaargh! FGS she didn't know it was a black tie until the invitation arrived!

I think you are all unreasonable and astonishingly bad at communication. Given that you had several meetings about it and no-one ever raised it as an issue, you are equally at fault.

However, the aunt is more at fault because of what TalkativeJim said. Her reaction was vulgar and unpleasant and I would be much more pissed off about that, than about the original misunderstanding.

I would also passively aggressively ask if DD is invited in the invitation every time you are invited anywhere for the next 5 years. Grin Actually I wouldn't, but I'd be tempted to.

titchy · 23/11/2013 15:56

It was the Christmas card that was to all three of them not the invite!

gobbynorthernbird · 23/11/2013 15:57

I don't think its worth reading anything into this situation. Communication on all sides has been poor (and you don't know what MIL said, what face she pulled, etc), and you normally get on well. Go if you can, and want, or don't. But definitely not worth falling out over.

BlingBang · 23/11/2013 15:58

Well don't go, get your mother to look after her for a night and enjoy yourselves or take her and arrange a babysitter to look after her at the hotel (have done this quite often).

Sounds like you have options. Wouldn't you enjoy this kind of thing on your own and be able to relax?

DontmindifIdo · 23/11/2013 15:59

Mines - a wedding is different, because the evening do isn't the main bit. Weddings are usually daytime then with an evening do, you can go to the main bit and then leave early in the evening, still taking part with a small child. With an evening dinner, few people would assume you'd bring a child to something that started in the evening, rather than a whole day event. I don't think it's unreasonable to not invite DCs to things that start in the evening. It's ok to not make every event where family members are invited to be child-friendly times and suitable.

Eastwickwitch · 23/11/2013 16:00

Sounds like the original plan was to have a big family party (to which DD would've been welcome) to a more formal adult affair. They should've let you know when it became apparent that it was adults only.
FWIW, I love adult parties without children & would go like a shot.

Mellowandfruitful · 23/11/2013 16:02

Yes, misunderstandings on both sides. No need for then to be all horrified about you thinking she was invited though. I would consider a sitter - we have used sitters.co.uk when at events in hotels and have got on really well. However I wouldn't then buy a gift - that does seem greedy, my parents on their 'big' anniversary said no presents - and if it comes up say ' we really couldn't manage it what with the cost of the babysitter...'

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 16:03

You are right, ThenSheSaid, the envelope to me and DH, but the card with the 'looking forward to seeing you' note in written to me, dh and DD.

We went to a wedding a few months ago and DD was happily dancing away until after 11. I regularly take her to (my) family gatherings/dinners etc where she is happy and awake until after 10 sometimes and then just has a lie-in the next day with no worries. I'm not obsessive about a routine a such, she is flexible and I'm grateful. I'm also very aware that not all toddlers are like this. I know she wouldn't settle with an unknown babysitter, and even if she would, I don't think it is right to take her only to present her the next day. Of course they wouldn't mind seeing her, but they will have 90+ friends to impress in the evening, lots at breakfast the next morning, then a big luch for 25+ to prepare, so she quite understandably won't be a prioity for the. 200 mile round trip- just not worth it.

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Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 16:07

Thanks mn, you are right, of course, it was down to me to clarify. It's how it's been handled, not the situation that has peed me off a bit, but you are right, I have options and I'll get over it. Lesson learned.

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Figgygal · 23/11/2013 16:08

It really doesn't sound like you appreciate that some people do you want childfree events tbh.

Sounds like total miscommunication on both parts

MrsCampbellBlack · 23/11/2013 16:09

Sounds as others have said that a small family party at which your DD would have been welcomed has turned into a very grown up black tie dinner.

I guess if I was inviting people to a black tie evening thing, well I'd just assume they realised it wasn't suitable for children.

I doubt there was any bad intentions on your aunt's part just total bemusement as to why your mil would have thought a 2 year old woud be attending.

If you like them, I'd just go and enjoy it and leave your DD with your mother - can't recall if you said that was an option or not.

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