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AIBU?

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DD uninvited to family party

117 replies

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:24

I'll try but probably fail to keep the details vague...

We have a 2yo DD. We only see DH's aunt and uncle 2-3 times a year, but they dote on DD and there are always excessive photos/exclaimations of how good she is etc. When visiting them nearly six months ago, DH's aunt and uncle told us they were planning a big birthday party this December, save the date. Fine.

Mil has heard about various arrangements as they have been made since then, and the option of booking a room at the venue was discussed and taken up by pil and DH and I. Fine.

When visiting the aunt and uncle again with pil a couple of months ago, there was further group discussion about this party (which has turned into a bit of a beast) and we found out it is to be black tie, dinner the works. , but fine.

An official invite arrived a few weeks ago, along with a Christmas card (!) with a note saying how they are so pleased we can join them and look forward to seeing us in December. The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD, and the printed invite had no names... (Can you tell where this is going yet!?)

I bought DD a beautiful dress, which I told mil about, who speaks to the aunt and/or uncle maybe weekly.

When visiting them last week, mil told them that is the venue could supply a highchair, great, if not, DD is fine on a chair. She was met by absolutely incredulous rant from the aunt (her sil) about why would we even think about bringing a child to a party like this. None of her friends would presume to bring their children to an adult event. She genuinely couldn't understand what gave us the impresion that DD was invited. Basically, poor mil got in the neck, they stuck to their guns about DD and then smoothed it over for the sake of family harmony.

Now poor mil has had to tell DH and I. Now, I am a bit cross that it has come to this and we've already booked a room. I do understand people want child-free events sometimes (although I wouldn't make that choice), and if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum. But now it feels as if she has been uninvited, and I can't help being a bit miffed. DH is cross (as I would be if it were my side of the family), but we have agreed he has to go so as not to upset his mum. Apparently if we can find someone to look after her, she can stay in the hotel room and come for breakfast the next day. I have said a firm no to that suggestion, it's not fair to disrupt her routine for no reason. I am minded to send DH with his parents and stay with DD and send them my apologies and best wishes. I am not really upset that they have excluded her, because she is too young to understand, I understand people want child-free events, and at least it's not my family being a bit bonkers! But I am irritated at how they've gone about it, and that aunt was apparently very judgemental that DH and I don't leave her with a babysitter every week and go and 'socialise'. And I feel for DH.

We made opposite assumptions, but were we wrong to assume what we did? Should we suck it up and leave DD with my mum? If DD were older and therefore disappointed I would definitely stay with her (and take her somewhere to wear her new dress), should I do that anyway? I'd like the excuse to get out of this to be honest. Don't get me started on the 'gift list'. Grrrrr, rant over.

OP posts:
EXTERMINATEpeppa · 23/11/2013 19:22

sorry but YABU.

A three yeard old to a black tie do? Her name not on the invite.I think you were a tad presumptuous but they handled it quite badly.

sorry about your party. Hope you can return the dress.

Topseyt · 23/11/2013 19:24

I think it sounds like a breakdown in communication on all sides. I think that the way that it was originally couched it was not unreasonable to assume that your daughter was invited. The invitation envelope, if I have read you correctly) was addressed to all of you, even though the invitation itself was unnamed. Nowhere did they specifically tell you that she was not invited.

If your mum is willing to babysit then you could go, though as you have now been ranted at you may be worried about the atmosphere.

I never had easy access to babysitting arrangements when my children were small, so I know just how difficult these situations can be. More than once I almost didn't go to weddings etc. because the children could not go and I had no-one to look after them.

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 23/11/2013 19:26

I think YANBU because the party morphed from a "family party" implying children too, into a black tie, formal thing, so the implication then changes to no children. Miscommunication, communication through a third party with mil stuck in the middle, and everyone (mil too) making assumptions.

Then instead of mutual apologies for misunderstanding, your DH's aunt criticises you for your assumption AND worse puts in her twopenneth about how wrong you are not to be paying a sitter and going out without dd every week - what on earth has that got to do with her? Confused

I am just thinking about how outragously expensive a black tie outfit each for you snd DH (bought or hired), a room in a hotel, travel AND an overnight babysitter would be - and then a gift list! Shock all to celebrate the birthday of an aunt in law who criticises your parenting/ social life decisions. I would possibly think the aunt is assuming the world revolves around her, not that you think it revolves around your child.

I would ne annoyed at her attitude, and feel disinclined to go. But then if I was invited to an up front child free black tie birthday party for an aunt of my husbands, whom I only saw a couple of times a year, I'd be glad I had children to get me out of spending hundreds of euros/ pounds on attending something I wouldn't want to go to in the first place :o

Andro · 23/11/2013 20:08

- The printed invite, with venue details and times and no other actual info.

Lazy and open to miscommunication

- The Christmas card, "Dear Doodle's DH, Doodle, and DD", wishing us a happy Christmas and New year. Then "we are so glad you can join us in Dec to celebrate..." Love DH's aunt and uncle.

Why wouldn't you think your DD was invited when the card is addressed to all of you and indicate pleasure that you (in this case obviously a plural you) can join them.

- Gift instructions.

Oh dear!

The Mr & Mrs Doodle is standard formatting, no inference to be taken from it especially in light of the card (which ought to have said something along the lines of 'we are so glad you can both join us' etc and thus made the adults only nature of the invite clear).

JapaneseMargaret · 23/11/2013 20:50

Sorry, but yes, you're being very PFB.

We have plenty of friends and family who dote on our children and think they're lovely and well-behaved, but I wouodn't for a minute think that that extended to inviting them to their evening birthday parties....? Hmm

And I'm sorry, but I do think the misunderstanding was all yours.

If someone said to me they were planning a big birthday party, personally, I would completely assume in the first instance, that it was going to be an evening, adults-only affair.

I mean this kindly. But your DD is two, and while there are plenty of family friendly dos that she's bound to be invited to, you really do have to make your peace with the fact that there is also a time and a place for adult-only knees-ups as well.

thenightsky · 23/11/2013 21:29

You found it was 'black tie' months before the invite arrived. The words 'black tie' I would take to mean adult only.

ShoeWhore · 23/11/2013 21:45

Lots of miscommunication all round I think. A black tie dinner is not exactly a child friendly event. My dcs are older but I would not assume they were invited to such a party.

One thing I would caution you on OP: you only have your MIL's word for it that the aunt launched into a rant. I would tread carefully on this one.

You say your dd is very flexible: why not take her along, settle her and hand over to a babysitter and have a great evening? It's fun to let your hair down without the dcs once in a while.

I also think that if you normally have a good relationship with this aunt and uncle it would be a real shame to spoil it over what is just a misunderstanding, after all.

Thumbwitch · 23/11/2013 21:46

No she didn't, thenightsky. She found out it was black tie WHEN the invitation arrived.

BatmanLovesIckyBarry · 23/11/2013 22:04

No, thenightsky, I don't think she did find out months in advance that it was black tie.

OP, YANBU, for the reason that the invite was enclosed with a card addressed to the three of you. No, black tie is not ideal for toddlers, but for all we know you may have been planning to take her upstairs at a reasonable time anyway. As other people have said, 'family' was the key word.

thenightsky · 23/11/2013 22:04

Oh sorry thumb... I'm guilty of reading the OP only. Didn't see she'd backtracked on that one later. Blush

BatmanLovesIckyBarry · 23/11/2013 22:06

Actually, apologies, thenightsky, the OP does state 'a couple of months ago'.

Still think NBU though

Thumbwitch · 23/11/2013 22:13

Thenightsky - It's so hard to get all the details into the op without making it an epic post that no one can be arsed to read though, isn't it! And yes, she did clarify that point later in the thread since it was unclear in the OP so not surprising that you didn't see it at first.

Laquitar · 23/11/2013 23:15

I know the thread is about the invite but i want to ask you why did you buy a new dress for dd and not for yourself.
Why not dress up and enjoy a child free night?

JapaneseMargaret · 23/11/2013 23:43

I do think the aunt going off on a rant was inappropriate (though I'd secretly have been thinking exactly what she said, I'd never have come out and ranted it).

But I do agree with Laquitar - why not just enjoy the opportunity for a child-free night?

Iaintdunnuffink · 23/11/2013 23:55

I'm with MrTumbles

Mia4 · 24/11/2013 09:43

That's a good idea Thumbwitch. I do wonder if HQ could make the OPs original post editable too and say that OP add information there as well. Obviously comment in the comments but add an 'edited to add: 'received this X months ago' etc. Bit like livejournal and Dreamwidth do.

thebody · 24/11/2013 09:55

yes MrTumbles exactly right and agree totally with your post.

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