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DD uninvited to family party

117 replies

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 15:24

I'll try but probably fail to keep the details vague...

We have a 2yo DD. We only see DH's aunt and uncle 2-3 times a year, but they dote on DD and there are always excessive photos/exclaimations of how good she is etc. When visiting them nearly six months ago, DH's aunt and uncle told us they were planning a big birthday party this December, save the date. Fine.

Mil has heard about various arrangements as they have been made since then, and the option of booking a room at the venue was discussed and taken up by pil and DH and I. Fine.

When visiting the aunt and uncle again with pil a couple of months ago, there was further group discussion about this party (which has turned into a bit of a beast) and we found out it is to be black tie, dinner the works. , but fine.

An official invite arrived a few weeks ago, along with a Christmas card (!) with a note saying how they are so pleased we can join them and look forward to seeing us in December. The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD, and the printed invite had no names... (Can you tell where this is going yet!?)

I bought DD a beautiful dress, which I told mil about, who speaks to the aunt and/or uncle maybe weekly.

When visiting them last week, mil told them that is the venue could supply a highchair, great, if not, DD is fine on a chair. She was met by absolutely incredulous rant from the aunt (her sil) about why would we even think about bringing a child to a party like this. None of her friends would presume to bring their children to an adult event. She genuinely couldn't understand what gave us the impresion that DD was invited. Basically, poor mil got in the neck, they stuck to their guns about DD and then smoothed it over for the sake of family harmony.

Now poor mil has had to tell DH and I. Now, I am a bit cross that it has come to this and we've already booked a room. I do understand people want child-free events sometimes (although I wouldn't make that choice), and if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum. But now it feels as if she has been uninvited, and I can't help being a bit miffed. DH is cross (as I would be if it were my side of the family), but we have agreed he has to go so as not to upset his mum. Apparently if we can find someone to look after her, she can stay in the hotel room and come for breakfast the next day. I have said a firm no to that suggestion, it's not fair to disrupt her routine for no reason. I am minded to send DH with his parents and stay with DD and send them my apologies and best wishes. I am not really upset that they have excluded her, because she is too young to understand, I understand people want child-free events, and at least it's not my family being a bit bonkers! But I am irritated at how they've gone about it, and that aunt was apparently very judgemental that DH and I don't leave her with a babysitter every week and go and 'socialise'. And I feel for DH.

We made opposite assumptions, but were we wrong to assume what we did? Should we suck it up and leave DD with my mum? If DD were older and therefore disappointed I would definitely stay with her (and take her somewhere to wear her new dress), should I do that anyway? I'd like the excuse to get out of this to be honest. Don't get me started on the 'gift list'. Grrrrr, rant over.

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DrCoconut · 23/11/2013 16:10

Surely invitations are to the family unless names are printed/written on? Even then I'd check. But YANBU to me if there were no names on the invite to assume it was for you all. I'd stay at home with DD and DH can go or not as he wishes.

Mitchell2 · 23/11/2013 16:10

YANBU - if I had of received the invite in those circs I would have come to the same conclusion as you.

I don't think it's unreasonable for them not to want children at the event but they should have made this explicitly clear in the invite (there are plenty of ways they could have done this in a polite /nice manner).

I also think it's a bit harsh ranting about it - it seems they genuinely didn't think it through and could have handled it a lot better.

smokeandglitter · 23/11/2013 16:11

"Having NO babysitting of any kind, I take enormous offence at child free Weddings and Family/Friends parties. I think they are down right rude and that people shouldn't assume children can just be parked like suit cases."

Starball, I understand why you would find these difficult and hope that your friends would make an exception in this case, but really most people can find a babysitter. My mum used to have some of my friends to stay when I was little if their parents would be out at a late evening/night do and vice versa. I don't think offence is necessary. If they are throwing a birthday party and wanted it to be an adult only event then that's up to them. Most people don't assume that parents of younger children can easily up and leave and understand if you can't attend. Weddings, yes, I see your point but parties not so much.

OP, I agree that it was a situation of miscommunication. Annoying that it happened but easily got over. Smile I hope if you do go you really enjoy it!

smokeandglitter · 23/11/2013 16:11

*should read 'up and leave them'

Mitchell2 · 23/11/2013 16:11

I mean they were a bit harsh ranting to MIL not the OP!

Andro · 23/11/2013 16:13

Unlike some people here, I can easily see why your thought she was invited - card addressed to all of you and the actual invite with no names leads to a fairly obvious conclusion even if black tie did seem odd.

I firmly believe the error here fall on the shoulders of whoever sent the invite; either the invite should have had names (so Mr & Mrs Doodle) or the card should have only named you and your husband. YANBU and someone needs to have a refresher in clear communication.

georgedawes · 23/11/2013 16:14

Glad you can see they've not done much wrong. I can't imagine taking a 2 year old to a black tie do, although appreciate you didn't know it was one until you received the invite.

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 16:16

Figgygal I do understand as I have taken pains to stress. It's not my natural way of doing things, but I do appreciate people differ on this (read enough mn wedding threads). I don't know what else to say!

I will probably end up going and leaving her with my mum, as it seems it really was my fault for my unquestioning assumption. And I don't want to upset mil further, she has had enough grief over it as it is.

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Budgiegirlbob · 23/11/2013 16:20

if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum. But now it feels as if she has been uninvited, and I can't help being a bit miffed.

Am I misunderstanding? OP, do you mean from this that DD would stay with your mum overnight? Would you still have booked a room? If so, then I think YABU?

There has been misunderstanding on both sides. But if you would have left DD with your mum, but now won't as you feel put out that DD has been uninvited, then you are being a bit precious. Just accept it for what it is, and go and enjoy the party, and a night away with your DH.

Thumbwitch · 23/11/2013 16:29

Seems like your MIL made the same assumptions as you did, Doodle, so don't take it all on your shoulders! And she probably knew it was black tie before you did, didn't she?!
So my point there is that YWNBcompletelyU to assume that your DD was invited, because your MIL did too.

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 16:30

Yes, that is what I meant Budgie, although it is now more difficult because my mum has arranged to have other family staying that night (v close to Christmas) but still possible.

I feel tempted to not leave DD on the basis of the ambigous invite and the un-called-for judgemental rant levelled at mil and about DH and I. But, as you say, that would be precious and I really am a pretty laid back peace-keeper, so I probably won't (I need to agree with DH what we will do once he calms down). I was just venting my feelings on the matter, but I now see that it's not necessarily to right thing to do and I am at fault too.

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Mattissy · 23/11/2013 16:30

Sorry but I think YABU.

I don't think they ever intended it to be a party with children, I would never assume children are invited unless mentioned specifically. Just get a baby sitter and have a lovely child free night!

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 23/11/2013 16:32

The envelope was addressed to Mr & Mrs Doodle, the card to me DH and DD, and the printed invite had no names

To me it reads that your DD was invited originally.

Doodlemooooo · 23/11/2013 16:33

Thanks Thumbwitch. I do feel guilty though that mil was in the firing line, was left with the job of telling us, and now feels guilty herself.

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Guineapig99 · 23/11/2013 16:36

YABU. It's a black tie event for heavens sake. get a babysitter and enjoy a grown up night out. They dont have kids so it wouldnt have occurred to them that you might want to take dd.

Carriemac · 23/11/2013 16:39

I don't understand why you can't uses hotel babysitter for your very flexible dd? or are you just muffed she won't be the centre of attention?

girlywhirly · 23/11/2013 16:42

If you do go, make sure you don't feel obliged to attend the lunch the next day if you want to go home straight after breakfast. Make sure you tell the aunt your plans in minute detail, ahead of time so that she won't cater for you. Oh yes, and get aunt a present that isn't on the gift list.

I imagine if things got a bit tedious and boring at the party you could just sneak off and have drinks in your room and no-one would notice.

CiderBomb · 23/11/2013 16:42

Starball, it's really not the party organisers problem if you can't find a babysitter. Not everyone wants kids running around at parties and weddings, why should they have to change everything to accommodate people like you?

StrattersInTheTARDIS · 23/11/2013 16:43

Children have always been invited to every black tie do in my XPILs family. The card was ambiguous and confusing, and I would have assumed my DDs were invited too, but then they woukd have been, as it's a family event

AgentZigzag · 23/11/2013 16:48

'I do understand people want child-free events sometimes (although I wouldn't make that choice), and if it were clear from the beginning (or any point until firm arrangements were made), I would be happy to arrange for DD to stay with my mum.'

'I understand people want child-free events'

The OP wrote twice that she understands some people want adult only events Figgy, what makes you think she doesn't? Confused

YANBU OP, but like lots of posters it looks to me to be a bit of an East Enders talking at crossed purposes thing, but I don't see any reason why you would think your DD wasn't invited before you got the invite.

They were BU to take it out on your poor MIL!

If you think you'll enjoy it then go along with your DH and don't think another thing about it, in all the other things they do they seem to show how much they love you and your DD so there's no reason to take it personally.

Andro · 23/11/2013 16:56

I would never assume children are invited unless mentioned specifically.

Their DD WAS mentioned specifically, her name was on the card along with OP and husbands.

cheeseandpineapple · 23/11/2013 16:56

Sounds like the aunt was a bit OTT in her reaction to finding out that you thought dd was invited but hopefully everyone can put their misunderstandings and any angst aside and plan to have a fun night out.

Black tie/dressing up, hotel room, whilst dd has fun with your mum and other family, you should all hopefully enjoy yourselves without feeling put out. It's a minor issue in the grand scale of things but I know it can feel a biggie at the time. Hope it doesn't spoil you and your DH having a fun night, plus a hotel room to yourselves!

If you can manage it, let MIL know it's all fine on your side and you're looking forward to the party and dd will be just as happy with your mum, no harm done, all good so that she doesn't feel guilty and it spoils her fun too. You should all be looking forward to the bash, sounds like aunt and uncle are looking to spoil everyone a bit, make the most of it and given how lovely they usually are with dd, this just sounds like a bit of a bump, shame to make it a long term issue.

Abra1d · 23/11/2013 16:58

It would not occur to me to take a toddler to a black-tie dinner.

AgentZigzag · 23/11/2013 17:00

'or are you just muffed she won't be the centre of attention?'

What has the OP said that makes you think that Carrie?

She's come across as the opposite to me.

Or are you mistaking her saying that the couple love her daughter whenever they see her, as her taking offence because they haven't done jelly and ice cream at soft play to make her DD feel welcome?

ChasedByBees · 23/11/2013 17:01

What talkativeJim said.

Meh, I wouldn't go, it's the easiest option.