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Husband vs my parents situation

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bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 17:12

This is something that happened a year ago but we are currently going through marriage counselling and this keeps been brought up. It is clear that the counsellors opinion is with my husband on this and so I'm really questioning whether I'm right at all.

So 18 months ago my husband had a falling out with my parents. 9 months before this situation happened. It was over a trivial thing as these things so often are. Basically my husband felt that I should have supported him when he objected to something ( minor) that my mum was doing with out dd. She was pre- loading the spoons when dd was eating, h felt that dd should be doing it herself ( we were blw). Anyway I didn't think it warranted the rebuke that my h gave to my mum, and so h stormed off as I was 'siding with her'.

During marriage counselling it has become apparent that h feels I have never supported him and have always allowed my parents to influence me. I dispute this as I feel I am v independent. I actually feel I have a much close relationship than many of my friends do with their parents. We only speak every couple of weeks and see each other monthly. I've never been on for discussing personal things with her.

Anyway the big issue came at dd's 2nd birthday party a year ago. I hired a hall and invited 7 other children and their parents plus both sets of grandparents. H's parents didn't come (predictably although I'd have loved them to be there). H refused to come if my parents were there.

My parents agreed to be polite and friendly but not try to discuss any issues or heal the rift in public.

H refused to come unless I uninvited them.

I didn't uninvite my parents. I felt that the party was about dd, not my husband, and that she would love to have her grandparents there.

I counselling h has gone on about how I excluded him from dd's party. I used to reply that he excluded himself as he was always welcome. If my parents had refused to come if h was there then obviously I would have told them not to come. Bt they didn't. They were willing to be friendly for dd's sake.

So this is being trotted out as an example of where I put my secondary family before my primary family. Normally I would say that dads are more important than grandparents and that primary family does come first.

Should I have backed down over this and uninvited my parents. This was the first time I'd ever stood up to my husband. And now he bangs on about it as the thing that has hurt him most ever in his life.

The counsellor just reinforces that primary family is more important than secondary family, which I do agree with, so WIBU here?

Sorry so long

OP posts:
bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 20:48

I'm trying really hard to be impartial but i honestly dont think my parents do badmouth my husband at all. I suspect he's not their favourite person given they are seeing less of me and DD than they would like, but they've never verbalised this to me. They always wanted him to feel included in their family and have said before that they've felt hes kept them at arms length and resisted this inclusion.

gobbolino I agree that the spoon loading has become a symbol for a far greater issue/set of issues. I think my H genuinely does think that I put my parents before him. Sometimes he has criticised them (just between the 2 of us) and I have defended them because he can be quite mean about people at times and its hard to hear nasty things that you don;t recognise being said about your parents.

No not and arranged marriage but we didn't live together before marriage and so I think somethings that are maybe smoothed over before marriage (eg how often you speak to or visit your parents) never arose whilst we were dating

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Backinthering · 17/11/2013 20:48

One can only ever get one side on a thread. To some extent you need to simply take the OP on their word. Their word, in this instance, indicates a strange, controlling, emotionally abusive man.

GobbolinoCat · 17/11/2013 20:48

She isnt being isolated, 10 days is quite frequent!

She said she is worried that their relationship will never be relaxed enough to relax this rule.

Well op can put a time limit on that cant she?

If it was me, I would throw myself into this trusting that it will be sorted out....I would put him first and see how that goes ( but i would be doing lots of investigating into his background as well and his problems), after say 6 months of observing this rule if things havant changed then its time to say, look its cleary not us its YOU and then of course you come into bigger problems...

Backinthering · 17/11/2013 20:52

GobbolinoCat, you may want to appease an abusive man but it doesn't sound like the OP is happy doing so.

Maryz · 17/11/2013 20:53

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GobbolinoCat · 17/11/2013 20:54

Sometimes people have a genuine concern that the other person cant see because they are brain washed. ie he could see concern and you cannot see it.

Sometimes people cant see the wood for the trees and project their own problems onto everyone else, so a man with jealousy issues, meets a totally trustworthy and loving girl who is devoted to him, but when she chats to a man, he sees red. Over reacts and goes beserk when there was no need too as the woman was trust worthy and loved him.

Ie he is mad and is projecting problems where there are none.

Are you Baptist, why did you not live together before marriage, did you only move in with him when you had the baby?

basgetti · 17/11/2013 20:56

Gobbolino this really isn't the thread to play devil's advocate.

And she is being isolated. Telling the OP that she couldn't see her parents for 4 weeks after giving birth had nothing to do with her husband feeling uncomfortable around them, since he wasn't there anyway and just left her alone to fend for herself. And 10 days is fine if that is what the OP wants, but not as a 'contact' agreement forced on her.

bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 20:58

Would you tell your H that you were putting a time limit on it gobbolino or would you just set a date mentally yourself. I've been observing this rule for about 2 months so far. Sometimes things are ok. But any mention of my parents (even within the 10d rule) gets an exasperated sigh and a check of what I'm going to talk to them about.

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ilovesooty · 17/11/2013 20:58

I'm a counsellor trained to work with couples. I'd endorse getting rid of this counsellor as soon as possible and working with someone properly qualified and registered with a professional body.

GobbolinoCat · 17/11/2013 20:58

me and dd with him there as well

if this was flipped into a usual MIL thread, and the man wanted to meet his parents with the baby without her, everyone would be telling her, no, go as well they must take you as a family unit.

paxtecum · 17/11/2013 20:59

gobbolino: some very normal people get married to complete control freaks who are nutters.

Maybe because they are young, maybe they have rose tinted classes on, maybe they are just naive, maybe they just think the best of everyone, maybe they are people pleasers.

Then if the marriage has problems, the naive people pleaser believe it is all their fault.

Because the down trodden person isn't being beaten up, they don't think they are in an abusive relationship.

I've been there and done all that.

It took many,many years of making excuses for my XDH before I realised he was EA.

ilovesooty · 17/11/2013 21:00

And I'm not at all sure if this account of your husband's behaviour is accurate that I'd want to take you on as a couple.

bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 21:00

I'm a christian but not specifically baptist although we got married in a baptist church. We did not live together before marriage for this reason. We were married 7 years when we had DD.

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BakerStreetSaxRift · 17/11/2013 21:01

Gobolino, I think they're already onto those bigger problems

Hmm
GobbolinoCat · 17/11/2013 21:02

I don't know Bounty, but I would be putting a time limit on working things out, I am the kind of person who likes to explore every avenue before calling things quits.

Then if it does end, I will never feel regret or remorse because that is a crippling emotion for me to feel.

i am not doubting that this man has issues, but I have seen a few scenarios where the truth has been somewhere in between. Before I ended a marriage or broke up a young family I would want to be really sure of things.

Possibly just set a date myself not to put any extra pressure on things. Two months isnt that long if he has been suffering.

As Ilove said though, you need to change counsellor would he agree to this, why did you go baptist?

bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 21:03

ilovesooty I've tried to be honest and as equal as I can be. Although obviously I am biased towards myself.

paxtecum I was young when I married and am definitely a people pleaser.

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ThePinkOcelot · 17/11/2013 21:03

OP, I have read this thread and am absolutely horrified! Why have you agreed to that ridiculous 10 day rule? Seriously, I would tell my dh to fuck off if he dared to try and make me cow tow to such a rule. You say you work part time. Do you never pop around to your parents or call your parents when he is at work.

Don't put up with this. How would you feel if this were your DD, being married to some jumped up, controlling prick like your h?!

fuzzybuzzybee · 17/11/2013 21:04

Your husband sounds abusive. I don't agree with all that primary family first, us against the world crap either. It encourages women to stay in abusive relationships and not seek help from family and friends

basgetti · 17/11/2013 21:04

Gobbolino the OP isn't taking her DD to see her parents without him. The quote you highlighted says he is there too.

GobbolinoCat · 17/11/2013 21:04

when i say bigger problems I mean divorce.

Maryz · 17/11/2013 21:05

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bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 21:06

It took me a long time to persuade him to do couneslling at all. It was actually when I told him that I was at the point of leaving that he suggested we approached the minister that married us (we moved away from the area when we got married) as he was someone we had both respected. That minister said that he wasn't the best person to be offering marriage counselling but that the man that we are seeing was. And so we took him up on the offer.

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paxtecum · 17/11/2013 21:07

Gobbo: I'm struggling trying to work out why anyone can be told by their partner how often they can ring their DPs.

Bounty: Is your DH much older than you?
Bounty: I really don't thonk Gobbos advice is helpful to you.

GobbolinoCat · 17/11/2013 21:07

Yes I know she is taking him, it sounds so controlling to have the DH there too at the meeting but I have seen many a thread where the woman is told she must go with the baby to the in laws so they show a united family unit.

basgetti · 17/11/2013 21:08

Gobbolino please stop telling the OP to pander to an abusive man.

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