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Husband vs my parents situation

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bountyicecream · 17/11/2013 17:12

This is something that happened a year ago but we are currently going through marriage counselling and this keeps been brought up. It is clear that the counsellors opinion is with my husband on this and so I'm really questioning whether I'm right at all.

So 18 months ago my husband had a falling out with my parents. 9 months before this situation happened. It was over a trivial thing as these things so often are. Basically my husband felt that I should have supported him when he objected to something ( minor) that my mum was doing with out dd. She was pre- loading the spoons when dd was eating, h felt that dd should be doing it herself ( we were blw). Anyway I didn't think it warranted the rebuke that my h gave to my mum, and so h stormed off as I was 'siding with her'.

During marriage counselling it has become apparent that h feels I have never supported him and have always allowed my parents to influence me. I dispute this as I feel I am v independent. I actually feel I have a much close relationship than many of my friends do with their parents. We only speak every couple of weeks and see each other monthly. I've never been on for discussing personal things with her.

Anyway the big issue came at dd's 2nd birthday party a year ago. I hired a hall and invited 7 other children and their parents plus both sets of grandparents. H's parents didn't come (predictably although I'd have loved them to be there). H refused to come if my parents were there.

My parents agreed to be polite and friendly but not try to discuss any issues or heal the rift in public.

H refused to come unless I uninvited them.

I didn't uninvite my parents. I felt that the party was about dd, not my husband, and that she would love to have her grandparents there.

I counselling h has gone on about how I excluded him from dd's party. I used to reply that he excluded himself as he was always welcome. If my parents had refused to come if h was there then obviously I would have told them not to come. Bt they didn't. They were willing to be friendly for dd's sake.

So this is being trotted out as an example of where I put my secondary family before my primary family. Normally I would say that dads are more important than grandparents and that primary family does come first.

Should I have backed down over this and uninvited my parents. This was the first time I'd ever stood up to my husband. And now he bangs on about it as the thing that has hurt him most ever in his life.

The counsellor just reinforces that primary family is more important than secondary family, which I do agree with, so WIBU here?

Sorry so long

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mistlethrush · 20/11/2013 23:14

Bounty - you are sounding amazingly 'together' given what he's been saying!!!

How on earth can he complain about your appearance and tell you to work on it to 'help your relationship'. I presume that he's still not going to lift a finger to do 'anything' himself.. apart from laze around and criticise?

So glad you've managed to see your parents and are going to see a solicitor.

bountyicecream · 20/11/2013 23:16

Well sadly I think I'm used to it. Also I have a mirror and some eyes and I know I'm not fat. I was prob 8-10 when we married 10 years ago and am now 10-12.

But yes my parents assured me I'm none if these things. My mum cried quite a lot. I guess it's hard hearing these things about your daughter

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MaryZygon · 20/11/2013 23:18

She must be hugely relieved, though Bounty. I know I would be if you were my daughter.

There is now a very bright light at the end of the tunnel for all of you.

Jux · 20/11/2013 23:18

Hooray for your parents! Even though you knew they'd support you, it must be so comforting to hear them say it. How lovely it must have been to be able to talk to them, truthfully about your life. And how nice to know that your whole family feel that it is not your fault, but that he has had them worried for a long time. That is the perfect family.

I do hope that that exchange with your parents, and the knowledge that they will be there for you, will help strengthen your resolve, and keep you going until it is safe for you to finally go.

Gosh, there's nothing like a good family is there? (It's also true that there's nothing like a crap family too.)

I am unaccountably happy for you. I love your parents!

cjel · 20/11/2013 23:20

MARYZYGON - I thought that, with any luck he will decide he can't bear to live with the monster that his awful wife has become and leaveSmile problem solved!!!

Sorry BOUNTY I hope you know that I think you are none of the things he has said?((((HUGS))))

bountyicecream · 20/11/2013 23:20

Thanks everyone Grin

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bountyicecream · 20/11/2013 23:22

I thought that too. Perhaps his reflection on my refusal to be thinner will make him leave. Very much doubt it though

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ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 20/11/2013 23:37

I guess it's hard hearing these things about your daughter

well yes, imagine your own DD sitting down and telling you this. how would you feel? I would feel quite violent i think, that my beloved dd was being spoken to like this by the man who is supposed to love her.

in sickness and in health and so on. this is so un healthy for your own dd to be party too...even the vibes etc.

he doesnt respect you any more.

i had a horridBF once who tried to change me, my mum didnt say anything horrid about him, he did have good aspects but she said to me, never ever change for anyone.

FiftyShadesofGreyMatter · 21/11/2013 00:02

He sounds like a controlling, emotionally abusive twat. It is not normal to react to a minor spoon incident like that. It is not normal to regard holiday photos as too personal to share with your parents.

You need a new counsellor, preferably on your own. And a solicitor.

^^ This post sums it up for me.

ChasedByBees · 21/11/2013 00:11

So glad your parents are supportive. What are your next steps?

BlackeyedSusan · 21/11/2013 00:24

if he has only recently given up work, I would seriously consider leaving sooner rather than later and then he has less of a claim over primary carer.

captainmummy · 21/11/2013 08:10

So glad your parents are now in the loop, OP. You are most definitely not alone!
How dare he suggest you are fat! He is trying to controll you even further - what you eat, how much you eat, when and how you exercise. Oh and you are 'cold and hard' now? It's because you have noticed the level of control and took steps to minimise it - you are not now meek and mild and allowing him to be the dictator.

Yes hopefully now that you have stood up to him and 'been honest' he will now consider that he he doesn't want to be married to such a wayward, headstrong (read confident) person, and leave!

MidnightHag · 21/11/2013 08:36

It's interesting that he initiated that conversation yesterday. I wonder if he is sensing a change in you as you start to gather yourself together in order to decide what to do next. It's like he's trying even harder to control and undermine you as he senses that his power over you is waning.
You are handling this amazingly. Thanks

myroomisatip · 21/11/2013 09:31

He sounds really horrible. No more to add as you have had so much good advice, I just want to wish you luck.

Also, be careful. If they sense they are losing control often the situation escalates.

UptheChimney · 21/11/2013 09:46

Good luck, OP. So glad to hear that you've spoken with your parents and family.

That latest conversation must have been difficult. From the outside, I'd want to know what sort of marriage it is which relies on the wife staying slim, with no equal mention of the husband's body/emotional temperament?

Certainly not a marriage in the eyes of christ/god: "With my body I thee worship/in sickness and in health" and so on ...

FairPhyllis · 21/11/2013 10:12

Really good that you have seen your parents. I thought they would probably have sussed him out.

I don't want to frighten you but please be very careful from now on. These twats can sense when you are gaining strength and are about to leave. This is the point at which things can escalate. If he shows ANY sign of physical violence or aggression (things like blocking your way physically, throwing things around) or does anything that frightens you, call the police or leave the house immediately and go to a neighbour.

tinypumpkin · 21/11/2013 11:43

So glad that you have seen your parents and been honest with them. Sending further strength to you as you arrange visits with your sol etc. You are worth so much more.

lunar1 · 21/11/2013 13:00

I have just sat and read the full thread, please Bounty grab your DD and run for the hills, and when you get there keep on running.

The more you post the worse everything sounds. You have a responsibility to your DD to teacher about healthy relationships. Talking about ranking family members in order of importance and having a contact agreement for your parents is absolute madness.

I just cant imagine how sad they would be if my parents or inlaws had to abide by all these rules and regulations. your Husband either has serious mental health issues or is a deeply nasty man. Either way he is not fit to care for your child. Do you want her to grow up thinking all this is the normal way to behave in a marriage?

BadgerB · 21/11/2013 13:18

He won't leave. In his eyes (& in the eyes of his 'Christian' counselor) that would make the failed marriage HIS fault. And nothing must be his fault - ever. No, the fault must lie with the cold, hard, fat wife, who refuses to change. Have known a very similar situation. OP, get out asap.

Motherinlawsdung · 21/11/2013 13:54

Closet gays often tell women that they are "too fat" when they are slim by normal standards. Do you think that could be a possible reason for his abusive behaviour?
Please get out of this relationship, it's terrible.

Anniegetyourgun · 21/11/2013 14:12

Well, that would explain why your mum made the PA remark over Spoongate. She clearly loathes him and it kind of sneaked out there. Having read the updates I now have sympathy with her because I think I loathe him too, and it's not even my daughter he's making unhappy.

XH used to say I was too fat to be attractive too (when it wasn't true - it is now), but kindly added that it didn't put him off because he remembered when I used to be nice. Hmm

SkullyAndBones · 21/11/2013 14:25

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mistlethrush · 21/11/2013 14:29

Skully you've not read the thread.

motherinferior · 21/11/2013 14:31

And Skully, in any case most of us dare to disagree with our partners. I don't 'put mine first'.

cestlavielife · 21/11/2013 14:40

whre do they read this script- so scarily familiar "Apparently I've become cold and hard and he doesn't know me any more. He then asked if I was willing to work on my appearance as he thinks I eat too much and exercise too little" exac same words... I heard from ex.

anywya i think you nrigh he wont go easily.
garner all support and make a plan.
be ready for a battel over contact and residency but stay calm and look at what is best for dd.

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