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AIBU?

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To think that this model looks awful and quite unwell?

369 replies

CiderBomb · 14/11/2013 13:25

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2507013/Victorias-Secret-Fashion-Show-afterparty-Sean-Avery-toasts-fiancee-Hilary-Rhodas-success.html

Got to say that it surprised me, Victoria Secrets models usually carry a bit more weight compared to the the emaciated girls we see doing the high fashion stuff.

She's so, so painfully thin. Her face is drawn and she looks older than her years.

When is the modelling world going to start using healthy looking girls who don't look like famine victims? This is not what people want to look at!

OP posts:
CiderBomb · 14/11/2013 13:57

MyPretty, with respect you sound completely arrogant and in love with yourself.

And most people would have "bloody awesome muscle tone" if they had the time to go running and exercise five times a week ;)

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BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 14/11/2013 14:00

Well personally I don't thibk MyPretty sounds arrogant, she obviously works bloody hard even if she is blessed with a naturally slim figure, why shouldn't she have a little boast.

I work bloody hard for my figure, am in the gym at least 5 times a week, am not blessed with natural slimness so I work hard to stay in shape and defined.....good for me.

Now you, OP, you sound very bitter.

Fuck, what happened to sisterhood!

MyPrettyToes · 14/11/2013 14:01

MySiamese. I am built like that. I have less muscle tone when I don't exercise (pregnancy and illness) and I am still thin if not than than I am now. Exercise make me hungrier. You don't know me and and the point is unless the OP knows HR personally she is talking shit.

Goldmandra · 14/11/2013 14:01

prepared to go on strict diets in order to loose even more weight to refine her natural body type even further

That's the bit that's wrong.

Why should she need to be on a strict diet to change her body shape if she's already naturally slim, long-limbed and pretty?

It would be fine to use models who were naturally underweight if they were part of a cross-section of society which included equal numbers of people with all ranges of healthy BMIs and some who were equally overweight.

It's about balance.

WorraLiberty · 14/11/2013 14:01

Honestly, I've never met anyone who's as thin as some models are. I can't believe anyone is naturally that skinny, sorry.

Really? Well some people just are.

Especially when they're as tall as the lady in the photo.

She looks thin to me but not 'painfully thin' or like a 'famine victim' either.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 14/11/2013 14:02

...and to be fair, I don't have time to go to the gym 5 days a week, I make time on top of working f/t and looking after my family by going at silly oclock in the morning. Where there's a will, there's a way!

HopAlongOnItsOnlyChristmas · 14/11/2013 14:02

Most of us have the time to go running or get exercise 5 times a week, but we spend the time watching TV or pissing around on MN or Facebook or whatever.

LuciusMalfoyisSmokingHot · 14/11/2013 14:02

I think she looks great, wish i looked like that, but im too short for a start, normally a way to tell if a person is too thin, is look at the face, is it gaunt and sucked it at the cheek bones,

Bumbolina · 14/11/2013 14:02

She doesn't look ill - she looks like a woman that exercises! I have a natural BMI of 18... I don't exercise, and I eat like a horse. She looks like she is naturally thin - but exercises on top of that. I was expecting far far worse.

It bugs me that it is fine to be slagged off for being thin.

MyPrettyToes · 14/11/2013 14:04

Actually and why shouldn't I proud of what I have achieved physically? For your information OP, I was diagnosed with a life threatening condition 4 years ago. I am fucking proud of what I have done to get my health and fitness to where it is today.

Yes I love myself. Deal with it.

zatyaballerina · 14/11/2013 14:05

yabu, she looks much older because of the deep lines on her face when she smiles, they might look much worse because she has a low body fat but I know a few people who got those lines in their twenties and they were normal sized, just unfortunate. Some people don't have much natural 'fill' in the face, they tend to look facially at their best when a bit overweight and still look beautiful if they get really heavy. Those of us with naturally fat faces look best (facially) thin and very pudgy with a few extra pounds.

Nobody's perfect. Including this model. Good on her for not getting fillers in her face. Body wise, she has a very low body fat but is quite muscular, so she can't be starving all the time. They shred themselves like bodybuilders do for the shows so she'll probably fill out a bit within a week.

SourSweets · 14/11/2013 14:06

YABU. In my younger days I did naturally gave a body like that. I continually got told I looked awful, I needed a decent meal, and that I was anorexic. I was perfectly healthy but attitudes like that actually did, in part, lead to me developing an eating disorder.

RevengeWiggle · 14/11/2013 14:06

Good for you mypretty nothing wrong with loving yourself.

MySiamese · 14/11/2013 14:07

Yes I misread your post mypretty, I apologised for interpreting it in a different way than intended on page 2 at the bottom.

Don't forget to mention your awesome toes and how great they are and how most men and women love them. Grin

HopAlongOnItsOnlyChristmas · 14/11/2013 14:08

Why shouldn't people love themselves and their bodies? myprettytoes obviously takes very good care of her body. How is that a bad thing? You're going to be living in your body for the entire rest of your life, you might as well enjoy it.

Chopstheduck · 14/11/2013 14:09

I think she looks a lot healthier than some models I've seen. She must eat reasonably to be able to exercise enough to get those muscles! I wouldn't like to be that slim, but it's clearly working very well for her.

I admire anyone who has muscle tone like that. I probably have it somewhere, I work out 5-6 days a week on average, I run, I do high intensity classes, I weight train, but I still eat too much, so it's all cunningly disguised under a layer of fat where no one can criticise it. Grin

Mintyy · 14/11/2013 14:09

You don't sound quite right though prettytoes. Your posts on this thread are totally ott. I suggest you have a nice cup of tea and a calm down. There is absolutely no need to be aggressive.

CiderBomb · 14/11/2013 14:09

MyPretty would it be possible for you to loose the attitude and debate properly, without being so aggressive and rude?

Telling people that they talk "shit" because they don't share your viewpoint is disrespectful and shows a lack of manners and respect on your part. At no point did I say that all skinny women are ill/anorexic or whatever, but that the model in the photo looks ill and underweight is my opinion which I stand by and to which I am entitled.

Maybe you need to deal with that?

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5madthings · 14/11/2013 14:09

I can think of a couple of mums from the school run who have that kind of figure, there are a few who are just naturally tall and willowluy/slim, and even after havcign kids have retained that shape. A couple of them go running/work put at the gym etc, some are just the type that dont seem to need to exercise but stay slim.

I am never going to be that slim, big boobs, wide hips, but small waist, very hourglass figure, when I exercise I am fairly petite, bit not slim, I need to lsoe 10lb at the moment but dotn have the motivation... Tbh tho given I have five kids I a pretty happy with my figure.

Kudos to those who make the time to exercise, I always feel better when I do I just lack the motivation to do it consistently.,.eyes up running kit that has been little used since my 10k in the summer...

Mintyy · 14/11/2013 14:10

I don't know anyone at all with that kind of natural figure.

My thinnest friend is about 5'8 and 8.5 stone.

BobaFetaCheese · 14/11/2013 14:11

Yabu; it suits her.

She's not got an 'anorexic face' (can't explain myself very well, but you know when a too skinny person has the jutting cheekbones and the flappy skin).
She's got low body fat, but a amazing torso, I think she's 'odd' for a Victoria Secrets Angel as they're not normally that obviously muscular.

My Mum and 2 sisters are size 4/6's; all willowly arms & legs with long torsos.
I on the other hand am a dumpy (5'4) size 10, annoying as I'm the eldest girl I should've got the pick of 'good' genes Grin

ILetHimKeep20Quid · 14/11/2013 14:12

I'm clapping furiously in support of my pretty

It's bloody important to love yourself, at no point does my pretty come across as arrogant. Maybe a bit defensive but you can see why.

I'm a chubster now, I know why. I eat to much and don't move enough. I wouldn't out anyone down for being built differently and taking care of themselves

HopAlongOnItsOnlyChristmas · 14/11/2013 14:13

5mad I haven't worn my trainers since the 10k. I have been swimmin twice so that's go to count, right?

DontmindifIdo · 14/11/2013 14:13

OP - that's not a photo of an unwell woman, it's a photo of a thin, healthy and toned woman. That's not a body that's all skin and bones, it's a body with very clear muscles! You can't get a body that looks like that by just starving yourself, "unwell" under weight woman don't have bodies like that. A flat stomach is not a sign of being underweight, it's just a sign of not carry excess weight and not having destroyed it with pregnancy (she doesn't have a concave stomach whoever said that earlier, it's flat and toned and I'm terribly jealous!)

I think threads like this are interesting, esp after the Debenhams size 16 manequin thread, a lot of woman have shifted their view of what healthy looks like to a larger size, so that any thin woman looks 'ill' if you are prepared to take a size 16 as the definition of healthy/normal.

LondonNinja · 14/11/2013 14:15

The whole 'she's too skinny' thing is utterly tedious and exceptionally rude.

Can you imagine the reception a 'she's an obese lump, she must be ill' thread would get? (and quite rightly)