Katie Hopkins vs. Peaches Geldorf on This Morning

[MulberryHag]

Knitting your own Birkenstocks?!
Katie Hopkins again.. Doesn't she ever go away? The debate about Attachment Parenting didn't seem to even go anywhere or be resolved.
Anyone else see it?
AIBU to think Katie Hopkins needs less airtime?

This link made me laugh (photos of her gurning during the argument) and the comments underneath

Oh worra thats cracking!!

3.The ‘I was a velociraptor in a past life’ face

Proper belly laughed

frizzcat has nailed it.

I like the comment, "Why is this woman on Facebook...let alone the TV?"

When I watched this this morning, initially I though PG wasn't doing herself any favours by talking over KH.
I was expecting KH to bulldozer her and it all to end spectacularly badly
But then I saw that KH had tweeted a pic of PG with baby Astala falling from his pushchair while P held onto her phone.
KH had written something to the effect of
"Attachment parenting? Attached to your phone more like it!"
This was done this morning before they went on air. You can't blame PG for coming out fighting! KH is lucky she didn't get a right hook to the jaw for that! missed opportunity

I think what would have made me punch KH was the hand action she made at PG when talking about spoilt brats!

I think PG has had a good dose of the darkest side that life can offer, what money can shield you from your mothers young and tragic death, whilst you are a young child and a pointless death too. PG was exposed to seeing her mother off her trolley on various binges.

She is still so young, and has managed to settle down and have two beautiful boys. And seems to be a good mother to them.

So KH making a hand circle thing at her when talking of spoilt brats was rather un necessary.

Fab post Frizz

As an aside I rem years ago a poster utterly slating me for CC,berating me for non sling wearing,saying loads of twin mums used slings(she didn't even have twins),lecturing on the need for AP etc,etc

'twas funny as I got loads of supportive PMs including my sister.

Anyhoo at the end of the thread it turned out her babies were put in nursery full time at 6 weeks.I was a full time Sahp so one would think just perhaps if being velcroed to your baby is a measure of good mothering I may have scored quite high.

But no still she lectured.

Now I could post and exstol the virtues of my parenting style but this would upset/bore/ enrage some who going by what AP advocates say/ think should have confidence in their own choices so I don't(not being that interested myself). For some reason AP are pretty much the only group who don't get this and just love to share/inflict their choices on others.When you protest you are accused of having ishoooooos or not enough confidence in your choices.Seen it time and time again.

It's baffling.

Elf did you not see Peaches meets Fearne Cotton?Spoilt brat didn't even come close.

They are both crap mothers, imo.

Watched the YouTube clip and was at the rudeness of KH as she gurned and winced her way through PG's introduction.

I also thought that PG went out of her way to say she didn't like labels but as she was on there to talk about Attachment Parenting here was a broad introduction to its principles. At least she had done some research and appeared to be informed (even if you don't necessarily agree with all of it) whereas KH's "argument" seemed to be exactly that, an argument with very few facts behind the insults (sound bites like AP=Crap parenting, woven Birkenstocks etc).

I had a quick look to see if I could find the study that proved that Swedish children were all spoilt brats because of attachment parenting and could only find a reference to a psychologist selling a book complaining that children were given too much leeway in recent years.

PG had also already mentioned the importance of boundaries.

I too have made mistakes when bringing up ds (including letting him escape the house at 7am ) and probably did a sort of half way house of AP (which included let him self-settle but he was always a good sleeper so it was never an issue ) but one thing I do hope (and believe) is that I have brought up a child who is far more polite, considerate and sensitive than KH although that wouldn't be difficult

Someone on one of the two threads on here made a good point. Why can't mothers just stop fighting each other and actually support each other, regardless of the choices they make.

You don't see Dads doing this - for various reasons. But parenting and how to parent seems to be an area open for argument for mums.

And Katie Hopkins, This Morning and the Daily Mail are all part of that nastiness.

Peaches g children are adorable,both her and her partner looked so delighted with their kids

to be honest there's nothing edifying in two mothers tearing each others parenting to shreds.

up the sisterhood my arse.

First I heard if this was a few weeks ago when I met an AP on a course.

All the course breaks etc are organised around this women going home and breast feeding her child.

She has two small children and a husband and I have 3 teenagers I have bought up alone.

She didn't make me feel like I loved my kids less but she certainly made me think she thought I did.

Load of bollocks if you ask me.

That aside well done PG :)

Well, how on earth did we all cope in the centuries and decades days before Peaches Geldof had a baby and was therefore an expert in telling us all how to do it?
THAT SAID, she went up in my estimation dramatically after watching that. Anybody who takes on Katie Hopkins and shows her up for being the egocentric, patronising, vile bitch that she is, is ace in my book.

Good on you Peaches.

I think, if we're going to use labels, I'd have to vote for "instinctive" parenting. Didn't co-sleep (often - unless my desire for sleep outweighed my preference for them to sleep in their own cots once of an appropriate age), but pretty much fed on demand, although tried to work it around to suit me as much as possible.
My (now teenage) kids are loving, affectionate, independent, un-spoilt and well-rounded, so I must have done something right. For them. Fully acknowledge that other people will have got to a similar end-result through having done it completely differently.

Would SO love to be a fly on the wall in the staffroom at KH's children's school. I suspect they're nice kids, but don't half feel sorry for them having her for a mum. Wonder if they get any play-dates?

Ahhh "chip" "guilt" BINGO!

Is there a chipometer to gauge whether it's a skinny fry or big fat chip

Um do share- why exactly do I feel guilt?

Share with us a bit more about the chip.

I'm amazed you know me so well- considering we've never fecking met in RL,you've never clapped eyes on my dc, you've never had a conversation with me or, you know nothing about me and have never seen me parent.

The utter arrogance is baffling.

I've never had any guilt how we raise the dc.why would we be guilty about doing what suits us

retropear

You are being very aggressive. No one is talking about you having a chip on your shoulder or feeling guilty. So why be so aggressive?

Its very emotive and the AP crowd get lentil weaving thrown at them or Birkenstock wearing....not sure you could accuse the glam PG of that though....she looked great today I thought, but the other CC crowd ( to crudely lump them into two groups) can get cruel, heartless, damaging the baby.

Do AP parents care if people call them lentil weavers? I don't know but I doubt it, but of course on the other side, it gets more vicious.

Retro

I am not a PG fan by any means nor know too much about her. However I do give people allowances when they have been through horrific times like she has,

*It was like living on a permanent see-saw and very scary and sad. Those feelings have always stayed with me, they just never went away.’

Miss Geldof was six when her mother left Boomtown Rats star Sir Bob for INXS singer Michael Hutchence. Her parents divorced in 1996.

The following year Mr Hutchence was found hanged in a Sydney hotel room, and three years later Miss Yates died from an accidental heroin overdose.

Miss Geldof said: ‘I remember the day my mother died, and it’s still hard to talk about it. I just blocked it out. I went to school the next day because my father’s mentality was “keep calm and carry on”.

‘So we all went to school and tried to act as if nothing had happened. But it had happened. I didn’t grieve. I didn’t cry at her funeral. I couldn’t express anything because I was just numb to it all. I didn’t start grieving for my mother properly until I was maybe 16.’

She is still a vry very young girl and seems to have sorted herself out, good on her.

Me neither.