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Katie Hopkins vs. Peaches Geldorf on This Morning

349 replies

MulberryHag · 12/11/2013 11:03

Knitting your own Birkenstocks?!
Katie Hopkins again.. Doesn't she ever go away? The debate about Attachment Parenting didn't seem to even go anywhere or be resolved.
Anyone else see it?
AIBU to think Katie Hopkins needs less airtime?

OP posts:
Ahole · 12/11/2013 13:05

That was hilarious! I liked rent a gob.

Katie Hopkins is a lunatic!

UnicornsPooGlitter · 12/11/2013 13:07

Oh, Katie Hopkins is vile. What disgusting behaviour from her all of the way though the interview.

Peaches Geldof was amazing, I'm suddenly a huge fan Smile. How she managed not to push her out of her personal space I don't know.

WorraLiberty · 12/11/2013 13:10

And why was KH sitting so close to Peaches?

Any nearer and she would have been sat on her lap Confused

Mylovelyboy · 12/11/2013 13:10

mysia thanks for that. Perhaps i'm missing some kind of point here. Why has this type of parenting been given a 'type' or a 'name'. I think what is being described as attachment parenting is something we all do anyway. Children are closer to their parents most of the time than other people and the parents are more sensitive to their needs/wants. Think its a very silly label to be honest. Another thing in our lives that has a meaningless title Confused

fryingpantoface · 12/11/2013 13:14

Katie obviously thought PG was a child. The way she looked/gurned the whole way through was dismissive and rude.

i thought PG was brilliant. I loved that the others stuck up for PG about the baby falling out the pram too

Retropear · 12/11/2013 13:18

Sorry Peaches spouted some insulting garbage too (first actually)- "AP is about loving your child,it's about showing them you love them and care for them,it's about not treating your child as an alarm clock"

Says who?

Peaches Geldof.Hmm

Clearly the rest of us who think AP is a crock don't love our kids.Hmm

MySiamese · 12/11/2013 13:18

Peaches said the same thing at the very start of the interview. It's not new age, it's what we have been doing as a species from the dawn of time. With all the 'baby training' etc etc that is about and has been for years now, I guess they decided to put a label on the natural, old style, responsive parenting.

Gileswithachainsaw · 12/11/2013 13:22

Well I don't get all these stupid titles. It's parenting , you do what works for you which is probably a bit if everything. All these titles are probably just from people trying to sell a book. However, PG pointed out rightly so that she clearly had a bunch of pre determined answers and was just gonna feel off the script. There was absolutely nothing of interest on the KH side. There were words but no actual point Confused nice one Peaches!! :)

Gileswithachainsaw · 12/11/2013 13:22

Reel off

MySiamese · 12/11/2013 13:22

Retro-

She was describing what AP is about. You're putting words in her mouth that she didn't say.

YourMaNoBraBackOfMyCar · 12/11/2013 13:26

She did say what retro said though. Plus she used the R word. I think I was the only one to notice though as evryone else was too busy catching up on just how fab she is.

PterodactylTeaParty · 12/11/2013 13:28

"Peachcheeks"! Well done for not thumping her one for that alone, Peaches.

Katie Hopkins is just foul. I can't believe even she seriously believes in what she's arguing, otherwise surely she'd have come up with some better arguments than spouting off over Indian fabric and the smell of breast-milk. "There's always a study", ffs...

MySiamese · 12/11/2013 13:28

She didn't say that people who don't follow AP don't love their kids. THAT was my point. Retro came up with that all on her own.

OrlandoWoolf · 12/11/2013 13:29

The R word?

MySiamese · 12/11/2013 13:32

She said katie was emotionally retarded.

UnicornsPooGlitter · 12/11/2013 13:33

Peaches did say 'emotionally retarded' I think. But she might not know that this is no longer an acceptable word to use?

CrocodileScream · 12/11/2013 13:33

I too want to know what the R word is.

caruthers · 12/11/2013 13:34

KH gets invited back time and time again because people keep tuning in to be offended and horrified.

Badgerous · 12/11/2013 13:35

Mylovelyboy that's what Peaches said at the beginning, that it shouldn't have to be called anything as its just going back to instinctive mothering.

CrocodileScream · 12/11/2013 13:35

Ah thanks.

To be honest I don't think Peaches gave the best interview. She also had catchphrases at the ready and Attachment Parenting is such a non story. However, KH is so vile that she makes everyone look great

Retropear · 12/11/2013 13:37

She also said bollocks about cot death,bollocks about the fallout if you don't AP and bollocks re CC and cortisol.At least Katie sat and listened without butting in unlike Peaches.

If she'd read any CC thread or used her common sense she'd know that said study was discredited,other studies show no ill effects and the famous cortisol one was based on babies in a Romanian orphanage.

Aside from that babies will cry and work up more cortisol when left at nursery than being left for 3 mins in their own bed.They survive.They're hardy and designed to withstand a bit of mewling.

I thought Katie rocked(she made some valid points)gone up hugely in my estimation.Honestly don't work in her PR office.Lma off actually,thought she was a hoot although the pram incident was a bit of a low blow(she did have a point though).

HelloBoys · 12/11/2013 13:38

Has Katie EVER been to Sweden? I don't think so.

I know of 1 Swedish child living in UK - perfectly behaved. And saw when I was travelling by train to Bordeaux airport on a coach (train was cancelled due to crash so coach) a family of Finns (aunt, sister, nieces, nephews, kids etc) - TOTALLY delightful, kids very polite and cute. If the Scandinavians bring up their kids so well from my 2 examples then I want their handbook. Grin

Didn't see TM and Peaches has come across as an entitled brat (see Daily Mail articles running her down) - but she is her mother's daughter (Paula Yates) so I think what mothering she had has shaped her. Bob's not bad for a dad either.

good on you Peaches and that hag Katie - please go away somewhere.

OrlandoWoolf · 12/11/2013 13:41

The problem Katie has now is that it is hard to take her seriously and to listen to what she has to say because her previous trolling prevents that.

She's so antagonistic that you can't take her seriously. This Morning needs a guest on with less of a reputation. But of course, viewing figures might go down.

Retropear · 12/11/2013 13:43

Also Peaches said APers are showing their babies that they love them thus inferring that those that think it's a crock clearly don't.

And the 7 Bs.Hmm

Peaches my love some of us had 3 under 15 months and managed to show our babies we love them just fine and dandy without the need for co- sleeping or any other B bullshit(the 8th B imvho).

OrlandoWoolf · 12/11/2013 13:44

Katie rocked Confused

Natural yoghurts, Costa coffee smelling of breast milk in there, Indian sling wearing mums, AP parenting is CRAP parenting.

Yeah - debating skills worthy of Oxford.