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To think a judge should not be able to stop a mother from breast feeding?

373 replies

HolidayArmadillo · 09/11/2013 22:09

m.wfmz.com/Judge-orders-Northampton-Co-mother-to-stop-breastfeeding/-/15946050/22880612/-/1yrm3wz/-/index.html

If this is true I think this judge has been wholly out of order. What about this child's rights? And any father worth their salt would not demand this.

OP posts:
5madthings · 10/11/2013 00:59

In many states they won't order over ifht contact until 2-3 yes old, over igjt contact is def possible with a bfed toddler, I left mine with dp overnight from about 18mths, I could go away for 24hrs ams that was fine. So bfeeding in itself doesn't prevent overnight contact, but at his babies age it woudltn be recmended. Six months down the line ams things will be differnt.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 10/11/2013 00:59

The judge is privy to info we aren't.

For instance the woman could have previous for withholding contact on the basis that she breast feeds and been a bitch about it.

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 00:59

or even what constitutes a baby. My ds has grown into a very healthy boy. All this about frequency of feeds. Every child is different. I didnt fall for the hungry baby milk con. what was i meant to do, let him go hungry. Aptamil filled him up and he was content. Blimey bet you have a library of baby books. Probably Gina Ford Hmm

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/11/2013 00:59

The judge didn't say that though, he just awarded visitation that will throw up a barrier to their continuing breastfeeding.

There is more to parenting that infant feeding. That applies to people who think a father can't be involved unless he's giving the baby a bottle, and people who think that breastfeeding trumps all other needs/wants/rights in a family. It's all about balance.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/11/2013 01:01

Because Gina Ford is the gospel for breastfeeding. Obviously. Seriously, what are you on? Do you actually think about the words before you vomit them on to the keyboard?

5madthings · 10/11/2013 01:01

Amd yes she coidl be using bfeding as an excuse to withhold contact which is crap. But why didnt the judge order freque t daytime contact with a plan to build up t over nights, would be Mich more sensible and less distressign for the baby. Its certainly what happens in the UK and in many states in America.

5madthings · 10/11/2013 01:02

Ha ha ha at Gina ford having a fucking clue about bfeeding...I think not.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/11/2013 01:03

^maybe that was the previous arrangement and she didn't stick to it? Or he's got other commitments? I dunno, 10 months is young, but as others have said, the judge has seen all the evidence, and there is likely stuff that we just don't know.

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 01:03

Im not unsupportive of bf. I just think some people think its the be all and end all. And if their child is not bf until its at some ridiculous age then its the end of the world.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 10/11/2013 01:04

There is nothing wrong with overnight contact though

Many many children stay with grandparents, aunts, friends etc from a much younger age and sometimes for longer than 2 nights

As an ex single parent I've got experience on this one and it is beneficial to start the overnight contact before it becomes a conscious decision for them. It needs to be their normal in order for them to cope with being in a split household situation.

basgetti · 10/11/2013 01:05

Mylovelyboy no one has said anything of the sort. The only person who has attacked other people's feeding choices is you.

5madthings · 10/11/2013 01:05

Yes maybe there is extenuating circumstances, I bloody hope so but actually I wpudlt be suprised of the judge simply didnt have a clue about bfeeding, they have some weird attitudes to bfeedign in america.

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 01:06

5mad exactly.

basgetti · 10/11/2013 01:07

The judge apparently said she should be on formula so I think it is likely he doesn't have a clue about breastfeeding.

neunundneunzigluftballons · 10/11/2013 01:10

Mylovelyboys your posts, intended or otherwise, have quite clearly demonstrated you are unsupportive of bf.

5madthings · 10/11/2013 01:11

exactly what mylovely ?!! you say that like ibam agteeing with you?!!

baagetti i agree.

BasilBabyEater · 10/11/2013 01:12

Oh well it is America.

They are fucking weird about breastfeeding there. I think you are only allowed to do it in public if you're holding a gun at the same time. Hmm

[Caveat: that's me being flippant, I don't actually believe that's federal law]

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 10/11/2013 01:13

It might be in Texas or North Carolina

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 01:13

basgetti if you look at sockreturningpixie post then you will see that is exactly what was said. My son thrived on ff. I only bf for two weeks. Its done him no harm whatsoever. He is never ill. If you went and stood outside a primary school, would you be able to tell which child had been bf or ff. NO

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/11/2013 01:14

Nope no baby books certainly not that dreadful ford woman Grin but I'm pretty sure her view points are far more in line with yours.

You do not have a clue, and your intentionally using goady emotive language it makes you sound a bit silly.

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 01:17

Sockreturn. im not goading at all Smile

IneedAsockamnesty · 10/11/2013 01:18

And I have no issues with ff I certainly did not attack your choice just your lack of knowledge.

basgetti · 10/11/2013 01:18

No, posters have said that breastfeeding is best for a baby. That is factually accurate and is not the same as saying it is the be all and end all or it is the end of the world if they can't do it.

neunundneunzigluftballons · 10/11/2013 01:20

Be realistic, would you want a toddler hanging off your breast. I think goady about covers that.

BasilBabyEater · 10/11/2013 01:20

Oh FFS.

It must be at least 5 years since I was on a BF thread, but are people still churning out the "you can't tell which kids are BF and which are FF?"

Statistically, you still can.

I always used to say this on BF threads, so why not wheel it out again: my grandmother smoked until she was 92 years old. She then died at the age of 100.

That means all the research, all the statistics on smoking that were ever done, are blown out of the water and don't need to be taken any notice of, doesn't it? Because anecdata is better than any other type. Er, no, it doesn't. My grandmother's experience is just an individual experience, which doesn't make any difference to population data. Kids at school gates looking healthy or unhealthy, doesn't alter population data. The evidence on breastfeeding is clear, irrespective of anecdata.

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