To think a judge should not be able to stop a mother from breast feeding?

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If this is true I think this judge has been wholly out of order. What about this child's rights? And any father worth their salt would not demand this.

Mylovelyboy the WHO recommends that women bf up to aged 2 and over. It is often misconstrued in first world countries that they only mean developing countries but in fact they do not they mean all children. Children's immune systems are immature and bf helps to compensate for their immature system.

But he's also the child's parent.

The child has a right to see that parent.

That bond formed with that parent will last a life time. Breast feeding lasts, at most, a couple of years. A fraction of a persons life.

That is probably what the judge was considering when he made that judgement

you need help mylovelyboy.

This has no doubt been discussed on here before but this is a quote from a New Zealand study on long term benefits of breast feeding. The study found there was but
"Mothers who elected to breastfeed tended to be older; better educated; from upper socioeconomic status families; were in a two-parent families; did not smoke during pregnancy; and experienced above average income and living standards"

So, how much of the better outcome is down to breastmilk or the whole circumstances ?

Wow a couple of posters have no idea at all about whats usual or normal about breast feeding,they also have a pretty piss poor attitude towards it.

And you are being an obtuse arse for the sake of it. obtuse? Where am I being obtuse Normal

If breast feeding is only a fraction of a child's life, why does it have to be cut short to satisfy the demands of a grown man? The father can see the baby, no one on this thread has disputed that.

Regarding this 10 month old baby.

No overnight unless the baby can take formula as well as bf. Still think baby to young to go over night myself.
Mother should be able to bf it she wants (nothing wrong with trying to introduce formula though)
Should not been the decision of a judge
Father can visit the baby or baby visit him. The baby can be home with its mother at a reasonable time ready for the evening.

It's not about a poor attitude to breast feeding it's about having a good and positive attitude towards the rights of a child to have a good relationship with both it's parents in a split family situation.

Sometimes ideal situations have to go out the window when you are not living in one.

At ten mths old the babies main source of nutrition should be milk, the best milk or rsthter the normal milk it should have is breast milk, human milk for a human baby.

Formula is fine (two of mine have had it) but it I no way compares to breast m, simply doesn't.

Any father who gave a shit would be happy his child's mother was bfeeding and they should have worked out a schedule of daytime co tsct, little and often as the courts would generally recommend in these circumstances, to make sure the baby can bfeed and have a relationship with their father.

Neund, my son was breastfed for 8 weeks. He's now 23. The last time he saw a doctor was to get his MMR.
I don't think he had a week's illness in total over the whole of his school career.

What is so wrong with the child going over night? Really? He gets to have 48 hours uninterrupted time with his daughter to be a fully hands on dad with every aspect of her life like he would if they were still together.

Why is that so wrong?

In instances where a judge/social services takes a child away from its mother at birth, as occasionally happens, is it spoken of in terms of stopping a mother from breast-feeding? In these instances it has been decided that the benefits of removing the child outweigh the benefits of the mother breastfeeding. Lots of people formula feed, or part formula feed, or stop bfing at some point before 10 months for a variety of reasons and it's not seen as the end of the world for that child.

Presumably the judge in this instances has weighed up the pros and cons of the situation as a whole, including information we may not be privy to, and come to the conclusion that on balance this decision is what is best for the child. I've no idea whether the judgement was a good one or not. I don't know enough about the case to opine.

So Mylovelyboy it is the bf you take umbridge with you do not agree with the ruling per se . I have said I think the father needs to be very involved and that may or may not involve overnights depending on how ready the baby is for them but for me suggesting that the woman give up bf is outrageous.

sock what idea about bf is there to have.

Mother feeds the baby that is it. What education does one need on bf a child. You put the child to your breast, it feeds. That is it. Its not hard (for some it is) but in general how can you say you need education about breast feeding. Ridiculous. If the child latches on and feeds what else is there to know.

Anecdote does not equal data, my two who had formula are also rebust and healthy, but statistically bfed babies are less likely to get many infection ie tummy bugs, ear and chest infections etc.

Most courts will not order over night contact for a baby under 12mths, there is no need to and if they bfeed it can be detrimental to that. Hence why they recommend little and often contact else bit during the day, gradually building up to longer periods and then overnight.

Perhaps she has not been very forthcoming with allowing him to care for the baby, hands-on, during the day time, hence the custody battle? Just cause you breastfeed, you are not automatically a good parent or a nice person. Or maybe he's a total arsehole. Who knows. At some point he could end up with 50:50 custody, at what point in the child's life does the need for a good relationship to their father, overrule their need for breastmilk? I feel like 10 months is very young, personally, but what if she is still breastfeeding at age two? Or even four? When are overnights okay?

Why does facilitating contact have to mean overnights when there is quite a bit of decent research around that suggests overnights with under 3/4's can be counter productive to the child?

And yes you do have a piss poor attitude,go and reread your posts its more obvious that a neon yellow 8 foot chicken whose just slapped you round the face.

I was going to say I wonder if she's using breast feeding as an excuse to withhold contact and be a twat.

These things do happen. We only have her side in the op

mylovelyboy if you think breastfeeding a toddler warrents a social services call - you don't know about breastfeeding.

Caitlin statistically ff babies and children are sicker than bf which is where the public health drive for bf comes from. Anecdotally my 2 ff babies were very sick with ear infections for their first year and ds has never seen a doctor. That does not mean anything though what matters is what matters to larger pops ruins of bf and ff infants and bf come out way on top in all studies particularly in the early years.

neun I think the father needs to be involved also. I have never once said that you suggested the woman give up bf at all. I dont know where you got that from. I have actually agreed with your posts todate. I think the mother should be able to carry on bf if she so wishes. But there has to be a point whereby the father has more involvement with the child. I do think 10 months might be rather young for overnights. I also think maybe she should start thinking about formula feeding whereby the father can get involved a bit more. I still think the judge is an arsehole

sock what idea about bf is there to have.
Mother feeds the baby that is it. What education does one need on bf a child. You put the child to your breast, it feeds. That is it. Its not hard (for some it is) but in general how can you say you need education about breast feeding. Ridiculous. If the child latches on and feeds what else is there to know

To start with you have no idea about frequency of feeds nor whats fairly normal at different stages nor the benefits to the baby ( or even what constitutes an actual baby) and you fell for the hungry baby milk con.

Along with your quite frankly childish take on the matter.

Pop ruins = populations

Mylovelyboy the judge said the mother should give up bf not you, you are just unsupportive of it.